Sunday, September 27, 2009

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™ - FRUITCUP - Part 2, the anti-paging version!

Help yourselves!

143 comments:

  1. Good morning to everyone! I hope each of you are having a nice weekend. So far, so good here in the upper Sonoran Desert

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  2. Whew! I'm winded running up the stairs. Can we get an elevator in this place?

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  3. *shambles in* *mumble grumble* Coffffeeeeee, Coffffeeeeee, Coffffeeeeee.


    /morning of the barely alive.....

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  4. The Trickle UP Theory in action! ;-)

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  5. My youngest and I are currently making pancakes and bacon....I love Sundays! "Big Breakfast" and then the NFL! Gotta love this time of year

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  6. ATH: Nope, couldn't talk to my landlord yesterday. Should talk to him today though. Might get one sometime this week. :p

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  7. Sunovabeetch. Damn thing just turned on.

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  8. Oooooh, soory

    Gotta go soak Molly's paw in the epsom salts.

    bbiab

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  9. desert-dog! :-)

    We have a football thread scheduled...I think they told me when, but they told me in West Coast time, while I had my East Coast brain on. :-(

    'Morning! Mmmmm! Pancakes!

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  10. Morning Phoenixgirl! Still down in Chandler?

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  11. ahwatukee desert, how are you doing? {littleoldlady}

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  12. {phoenixgirl} backatcha! :-)

    I'm juggling. So far I've only had to hang up on two people today. So I guess I'm doing okay. ;-)

    And you?

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  13. phoenixgirl! long time, good to see you.

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  14. doing well, and thanks for the fruit cup!

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  15. Littleoldlady - OK, fun is fun but this is too much fun!
    Didja look at our page set up?
    At the end of the first page of the FruitCup thread there are arrows saying >newer >>newest
    and I posted on the "newest" wherein you FINALLY told me to come over here!
    Where ARE the comment I typed into the "newest" comments (and where you told me to get my butt upstairs by clicking on the CC logo?!)??

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  16. So we had one Fruitcup thread that went to 215 comments, one "newest" thread that had about 11 or so and now THIS one?!

    It's not fair to play with folks when they've only had one cuppa coffee, ya know?!?

    Oh and good morning to you and welcome phoenixgirl!!
    Don't let the numbers in front of my name throw you, this is realwest - you'd have to ask Typepad why they took away my name about two weeks ago, after using it for almost two weeks!

    Hope you're doing well!

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  17. China to start anti-dumping, anti-subsidy investigations into imported U.S. chicken

    BEIJING, Sept. 27 (Xinhua) -- China Sunday started anti-dumping and anti-subsidy investigations into chicken products imported from the United States, the Ministry of Commerce said.

    The United States is the largest chicken products exporter to China, comprising 90 percent of the 407,000 tonnes of chicken China imported in the first half of 2009.

    And Hi, phoenixgirl.
    Long time no type.

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  18. 3CP0...your comment is still back where you left it. That's also where I left the first comment instructing everyone to move up here, and my second comment, custom made for YOU!

    That's a close to an engraved invitation as I can do, dear! ;-)

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  19. 3CP0

    Is that what we're calling him now ?
    Too funny.

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  20. So we had one Fruitcup thread that went to 215 comments, one "newest" thread that had about 11 or so and now THIS one?!

    Some friend! You just scared the bejeebers outta me!

    /It's YOU who can't count. WHEW! ;-)

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  21. {{{{{{realwest}}}}}}}} i hope you know you were and still are loved by many!
    {{sasquatchonsteroids}}

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  22. Hey Sasquatch, how do you make a hyperlink like the one you just posted?

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  23. Morning everyone! Get your Oba-Mao gear now! Of course there will soon be a whole collection from Marx to...well..whomever.

    /Naturally, a product of the Vast ViteVing Conspiracy®!

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  24. *sigh* Anyone want to come here and kick my ass into gear? I seem to be stuck in neutral.

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  25. enuff.....

    RAAAAAAAAAACIST!

    /actually pretty damn funny.

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  26. Bill Clinton speaks of vast, right-wing conspiracy

    Bill Clinton says a vast, right-wing conspiracy that once targeted him is now focusing on President Barack Obama.

    The ex-president made the comment in a television interview when he was asked about one of the signature moments of the Monica Lewinsky affair over a decade ago. Back then, first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton used the term "vast, right-wing conspiracy" to describe how her husband's political enemies were out to destroy his presidency.

    Bill Clinton was asked on NBC's "Meet the Press" whether the conspiracy is still there. He replied: "You bet. Sure it is. It's not as strong as it was because America has changed demographically. But it's as virulent as it was."

    Clinton said that this time around, the focus is on Obama and "their agenda seems to be wanting him to fail."


    /boo!

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  27. Paladin.... me too. There are so many things I should be doing but I am not in the mood. As far as I know my kids could be playing in the street right now. Sundays are a day of rest for me... and Football.

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  28. enuff said...

    Good one.
    Call me when they do the Che one.

    /campaign worker in TX

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  29. Enough already of apologizing to the world about the USA, time to get back to taking over 1/6 of the economy!

    Obama resumes health care push, vows to 'get it done this year

    After a heady week on a high-stakes world stage, President Obama returned to America's messiest political mosh pit -- the health care debate.

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  30. squatch - that whole chicken thing? That's retaliation over the tires tarrif.

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  31. AtillaTheHoney said...

    Yep.
    Hey, I hear they have a vote on this thing called the UN Security Council, too.
    Thank the stars they're going to be helping on Iran !

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  32. President Obama....Master Statesman

    How To Lose Friends...

    The United States does not negotiate with terrorists - but we insist Israel do without preconditions.

    We will not get entangled in the distasteful internal politics of Iran - but we define Israel's borders.

    We will remove missile defense systems in Eastern Europe so we do not needlessly provoke our good friends in Russia - but we have no compunction nudging Israel to hand over territory with nothing in return.

    This week, President Barack Obama spoke to the United Nations' General Assembly and insisted that Israel and the Palestinians negotiate "without preconditions." (Well, excluding the effective precondition that Israeli settlements are "illegitimate," according to the administration - so no pre-conditions means feel free to rocket Israel while you talk.)

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  33. deert-dog said...

    Notice what else he says in there.

    This tact, Obama hopes, will lead to "two states living side by side in peace and security - a Jewish state of Israel, with true security for all Israelis; and a viable, independent Palestinian state with contiguous territory that ends the occupation that began in 1967, and realizes the potential of the Palestinian people."

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  34. sasquatch,

    That's a two year old, right?

    /RIGHT?!

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  35. That's a two year old, right?

    Don't think so.
    That baby has a full set of teeth !

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  36. mea culpa from the New York Times? Wow...how did this get past the Editors?

    Tuning In Too Late

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  37. "True security"...within the Auschwitz borders...for now, anyway.

    Obama is a true friend of Israel!

    /MAJOR sarcasm

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  38. YOWZA!! We just lost power for about 3 seconds or so, just enough to lose our Cable TV, crash my computer and make us re-set the microwave oven's clock - the three essentials of modern living!
    ;)
    So whadda I miss?!

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  39. squatch
    with contiguous territory that ends the occupation that began in 1967, and realizes the potential of the Palestinian people."

    Remember when we 'accidently' bombed the Chinese embassy during the Balkan war? We blamed it on bad maps from the Defense Mapping Agency or some such body.

    I think he's using maps from the same crowd for that howler.

    lol: regarding that baby - nope - newborn - 19 lbs (mother got glucose during pregnancy for some condition or other)

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  40. Yep, that's what they're saying, glucose did that.
    I, however, have my doubts. Unless of course the Glucose was mixed with human growth hormones!

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  41. Welcome back to the thread we are on, realwest! ;-)

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  42. (mother got glucose during pregnancy for some condition or other)

    Never would've guessed glucose had that effect.
    So much for those baby clothes they bought...
    That kids ginormous !

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  43. Why not? Glucose is just sugar. My guess is that as the baby is acclimated to a more standardized diet, he'll lose weight accordingly.

    I once worked with a man whose wife gave birth to a 13 lb baby. Granted, she was a BIG woman (not fat - BIG) 6'2, 180 lbs., all muscle.

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  44. Father was BigFoot...

    /...whoops!

    ;-)

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  45. I see Pantsuit has said we're now going to engage Myanmar,which has been labeled an "Outpost of Tyrrany",about a half rung lower than the Axis of Evil.

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  46. Father was BigFoot...

    /...whoops!

    ;-)


    Damn Liberty Pub....
    No more shots !

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  47. Oh thanks littleoldlady - I'm so glad you decided to settle on one thread, but there are still 19 "missing comments"! THIBPIT!!

    Oh and desertdog - sorry I missed you - this is realwest - but as Atilla the Honey pointed out on the first page (or maybe it was that missing page 1a) the NYTimes ombudsman LIED about Rangel too. The New York Post and the next day the New York Daily News both had extensive coverage of Rangel. In fact their respective coverage of Rangel's continuing "discovery" of assets and income he didn't know he had, far surpassed ANYTHING the NY Times had on it.

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  48. Damn Liberty Pub....
    No more shots !


    Bwahahaha!

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  49. ...but there are still 19 "missing comments"!

    What? Please don't tell me I disappeared a thread again.

    :-(

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  50. Well, finally someone has managed to get a clue.

    Rep Mark Kirk (R-IL) - he's the one who blew the whistle on Obama giving money to Daffy's kids, I think) - is blowing the whistle on the Census Bur. and SEIU.

    Census should cut SEIU ties because of ACORN, Kirk says

    Republican U.S. Rep. Mark Kirk announced Friday he will hold a news conference calling on the U.S. Census Bureau to sever its ties to Illinois’ largest union, the Service Employees International Union, because, Kirk says, the group is too close to ACORN.

    The union endorsed Kirk’s front-running Democratic rival for the Senate seat, Democrat Alexi Giannoulias, the previous day.

    Up until ACORN became controversial for alleged vote fraud during last year’s presidential election, even Republican administrations funded the group.

    Kirk himself voted in 2005 to approve a $140,000 earmark for ACORN’s New York office to fight teen delinquency, SEIU's political director Jerry Morrison said.

    A Kirk spokesman said he would research that vote but that Kirk would lay out his case against SEIU and ACORN at Monday’s news conference. The union even shares office space with an activist group “affiliated” with ACORN, Kirk says in his release.

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  51. real and desert
    The New York Post and the next day the New York Daily News both had extensive coverage of Rangel. In fact their respective coverage of Rangel's continuing "discovery" of assets and income he didn't know he had, far surpassed ANYTHING the NY Times had on it.

    Just to reiterate, in today's ombudsman column, Hoyt also gave the Times credit for breaking the Spitzer/prostitute story.

    No. Roger Stone leaked that to the Daily New or the NY Post (I forget which). In any case, it was one of the NY city papers that broke that story, not the NYT.

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  52. Hey kids.

    Got the kids to church, back from church, and made pancakes which I'm now enjoying.

    Have some!

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  53. Good morning.

    Had enough of the hope and change yet?


    The jobless recovery
    Data should show progress, along with a few bumps in the road
    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/data-should-show-progress-toward-jobless-recovery-2009-09-27

    "In the technical perspective of an economist, "recovery" simply means positive economic growth after a recession. The economy has shrunk 3.9% in the past year, and for an economist, "recovery" simply means the economy is no longer shrinking: Output and sales are rising. It's the beginning of the journey, not the arrival at the destination."

    And we have seen no evidence to date of any such GDP growth. We have seen a slowing of the contraction. Most of this revolves around unemployment.

    "The unemployment rate is expected to tick higher to 9.8% in September from 9.7% in August. That would be the highest since 1983. Most economists believe the jobless rate will peak at just over 10% early next year.

    Unlike the temporary layoffs that defined the deep recessions in 1958, 1975 and 1982, most people who are unemployed now have lost their jobs permanently. They won't be quickly recalled back to work at the factory, as in past recoveries. Instead, they'll have to find a new employer, maybe even find a new industry or occupation. That will take time. It could take years for the unemployment rate to drift back into the 5% range."

    Part of the problem is we have one of the most anti-business, anti-growth administrations in the White House that has ever existed. Other administrations have screwed up, but other than Jimmy Carter I am hard pressed to find another President who is as intent on damaging business as Obama and the current group of Democrats in power in Washington are.

    No wonder Hugo Chavez likes this guy.

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  54. Well, finally someone has managed to get a clue.

    Except our current AG.

    Pour a little water over a guys nose to save American lives - not so good.

    Union thugs tapping baseball bats on the side of voting booths - All good.

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  55. I tell you -- trying to herd four kids, all of whom have to be in different places -- all by one's lonely is a task. Especially when there are 1,000 other kids of varying sizes running around at the same time, in and out of the parental types like schools of little brightly colored fish darting amongst the reefs.

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  56. Mmmmm! Pancakes!

    Barack! Hussein! Obama!
    Says we should thank our mama!
    mmm! mmm! mmm!


    /ducks

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  57. Good morning real, hope you and your Mom are doing well.

    Go Giants.

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  58. 3 wood

    Yeah, and you know what we're going to hear in defense of this crap?

    "Unemployment is a lagging indicator, just be patient"

    Well, what ISN'T a lagging indicator is liquidity of which we've got el zippo and that's why people aren't hiring, tank yew berry mush, do I LOOK stupid or sumthin?

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  59. Part of the problem is we have one of the most anti-business, anti-growth administrations in the White House that has ever existed. Other administrations have screwed up, but other than Jimmy Carter I am hard pressed to find another President who is as intent on damaging business as Obama and the current group of Democrats in power in Washington are.

    No wonder Hugo Chavez likes this guy.


    [Red] Birds of a feather and all that.

    My question is, are there any sectors of the economy where there is real potential for job growth, in particular, for new careers? The old saw is that a certain level of unemployment is a good thing since it allows for labor to be shifted from one sector to another. I'm just having a hard time imagining what sector people could shift to.

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  60. Hey Lucius, pass those pancakes this way! Noo, lift them higher or littloldlady will grab 'em!!

    ;)

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  61. Venezuela President Hugo Chavez turns on the charm for Courtney Love at Oliver Stone screening

    Courtney Love is still floating on the charm offensive that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez launched at Wednesday's screening of Oliver Stone's new documentary, "South of the Border." The singer, who came dressed to thrill in a short zipper-front skirt, says she noticed the twice-divorced Chavez checking her out during a Q&A afterward.

    "It was the third wink that sold me," Mrs. Kurt Cobain told us. "He's a sexy dawg. He invited me to visit his country and I'd like to go. I'll rock Caracas!"


    /fire in the Hole!

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  62. Hey Real! Don't worry -- I made plenty.

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  63. Hugo can have Courtney Love. In fact, they'd make a beautiful couple. Of what, I don't know, but a couple none the less.

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  64. As for Oliver Stone, let him move to Caracas and make conspiracy movies about Chavez and his party. The fish are hungry.

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  65. eatitorwearit: Didn't Courtney Love belong to a band called "Garbage"?

    /either way she's pure skank....

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  66. So I just looked up the team that my Bucs will lose to today, and by gosh/by golly...

    You don't even need to spend energy awishin and ahopin. It is said. It is done. Giants win.

    Big.

    /Maybe the Bucs can sign that baby mentioned above for the offensive line or something.

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  67. Good morning 3 wood - as you said, an awful lot of folks who have lost their jobs will NEVER get them back. Hence the major uptick in UNDERemployed individuals. And that can be almost as devastating as becoming unemployed.
    If you as a family were making $125,000 a year and are now making maybe $75,000 a year, it's gonna be hard to make the mortgage/rent payments, much less help your kids with college and the like.
    And I can only think of one, very convoluted way to "judge" the amount of UNDERemployment and it involves dealing with IRS receipts.
    The news about taxing someone for not having a personal health insurance plan has pissed off big Unions in a MAJOR way, because they say they were PROMISED by the Won, that that wouldn't happen.
    Methinks the LEFTIST TENT is too large and holds too many folks who have truly disparate and competing interests.

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  68. Roman Polanski finally to face justice for child molestation?

    Although, having read the story years ago of what happened, the mother basically pimped her 13-year old daughter to Polanski while they were all nekkid in the hot tub, and then later had pangs of guilt or something after she left the two of them alone to go do drugs and screw some guy.

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  69. A BIG consolation for having grown up in the Pittsburgh Pirates mileau is that means I also grew up with

    THE STEELERS!

    GO STEELERS!

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  70. Hey Lucius.

    The Government has added over 25,000 jobs since the beginning of the year!
    Hope!
    Change!

    /drenching

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  71. PaladinPhil said...

    Didn't Courtney Love belong to a band called "Garbage"?


    /Hole

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  72. real, I see one problem with your IRS receipt idea. What, about 40% never owe Fed taxes anyway. So if any of them become 'underemployed', it would never show up.

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  73. Methinks the LEFTIST TENT is too large and holds too many folks who have truly disparate and competing interests.

    Bingo -- the nose-ring loser crowd, the effete black-turtle-neck artsy brigade, the GLBTQP juntas, and the UAW thugocracy Klavin can't remain friends forever.

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  74. Ah, thanks eatitorwearit. There's someone that tried riding on the coat tails of fame. Never did like her and how she dealt with the aftermath of Kurts suicide.

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  75. Hey there gettinby! Listen the Giants are NOT a lock to win this game. They have a long tradition of blowing games they should win. What's the line,do you know?

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  76. My one-day empirical, anecdotal survey of the economy:

    We had a yard sale yesterday. I ran an ad in the local daily for 3 days. I ran an ad on craigslist for 3 days (which got buried almost immediately because there were so many other yard sale ads). I put up signs in all the right places, and I have the best signs in the township - everyone says so.

    We had a LOT of good stuff that we were practically giving away. We had a steady but much smaller crowd than I am used to for much of the morning.

    At the end of the day a woman (I'm sure she's a dealer, although she won't admit it) who shows up for all of my sales came by and told me, "There's a LOT of sales out there. More than I have ever seen! And nobody's buying..."

    I average two yard sales per year. (Don't ask. My stuff reproduces at night when I'm not looking.) Our take yesterday was $80 - which is one half of the WORST sale I've ever had up until then.

    Conclusion: Even the underground economy is suffering in this economy. We are screwed.

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  77. Conclusion: Even the underground economy is suffering in this economy. We are screwed.

    Hope!!

    Change!!

    //barf

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  78. Wow, I ran across this train wreck skimming thru Memri.

    Sex Education is a Colonialist Invasion !

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  79. Truck Monkey! :-)

    Hope!!

    Change!!


    Bills don't get paid!

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  80. GO STEELERS!

    My heart pittereth-pattereth.

    Yes!

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  81. Sex Education is a Colonialist Invasion !


    That's a thought -- we could send them Roman Polanski -- he teaches the sort of sex that they would probably approve of.

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  82. real (or is it C3PO-something?) ;)

    You're up by 6-1/2. Huh?! They must not know how BAD the Bucs are this year.

    Trust me...Giants. Bigtime.

    /I sure hope this reverse psychology works.

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  83. Life in Israel 1948

    Life mag pics after the surrender of Jerusalem.

    Hearbreaking.

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  84. Hi there 3 wood! Yep, mom and I are doing ok, it APPEARS that the "cold" (being a realtive term, it was 62 when I got up; yesteday was cool too, but the week before it the highs were upper 80's to lower 90's)is easing off, rain has stopped and we're no longer in danger of becoming mushrooms! LOL!
    And HELL YES: GO GIANTS!!

    BTW, did you see were Derek Jeter went over 200 hits (207 to be precise) for the 8th time in his career at age 35?! And all he could think to say was "Well Robbie (Caino, the 2nd baseman with 199 hits) is gonna go over 200 hit this year, isn't that great?!"
    Jeter = class act all the way.

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  85. "My question is, are there any sectors of the economy where there is real potential for job growth, in particular, for new careers? The old saw is that a certain level of unemployment is a good thing since it allows for labor to be shifted from one sector to another. I'm just having a hard time imagining what sector people could shift to."

    Government and geriatrics.

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  86. That's a thought -- we could send them Roman Polanski -- he teaches the sort of sex that they would probably approve of.

    Yeah, sort of, except 13 year olds are already 4 years into marriage...

    *spit*
    <*deleted*>

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  87. Government and geriatrics.

    "Calling Dr. Death Squad! Dr. Moe! Dr. Larry!..."

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  88. "Good morning 3 wood - as you said, an awful lot of folks who have lost their jobs will NEVER get them back. Hence the major uptick in UNDERemployed individuals. And that can be almost as devastating as becoming unemployed.
    If you as a family were making $125,000 a year and are now making maybe $75,000 a year, it's gonna be hard to make the mortgage/rent payments, much less help your kids with college and the like."

    I think we will see a significant wage deflation and with it a drop in discretionary income and a lower standard of living.

    You have to encourage people for making money, not punish them for doing so.

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  89. Attila! Those must have been photoshopped! There were no Jews in Jerusalem until 1967! I'm sure of it! And Arabs would never ever have been sacking or burning! They were oppresed by the Zionists. Obviously those pictures are pure propaganda!

    /sadly, I've been told as much of people with Ph.D.s Just goes to show you that education is no sure remedy against ignorance and hatred.

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  90. Jeter = class act all the way

    Couldn't agree more, Real.

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  91. "THE STEELERS!

    GO STEELERS!"

    Quite a few dropped passes last week.

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  92. My real wages have been dropping steadily for years, so this is not unfamiliar territory for us.

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  93. "BTW, did you see were Derek Jeter went over 200 hits (207 to be precise) for the 8th time in his career at age 35?! And all he could think to say was "Well Robbie (Caino, the 2nd baseman with 199 hits) is gonna go over 200 hit this year, isn't that great?!"
    Jeter = class act all the way."

    Yes a class act. As opposed to that Milton Bradley freak that the Cubs are stuck with for another 2 years. And folks wonder why the Cubs never win.

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  94. Hmm, some interesting info from Rasmussen:
    Rasmussen Consumer Index
    Only 9% Rate the Economy as Good or Excellent
    Sunday, September 27, 2009
    The Rasmussen Consumer Index, which measures the economic confidence of consumers on a daily basis, remained steady on Sunday at 80.9. That's up two points from its level a week ago and up five points from a month ago. Consumer confidence is up 21 points from the beginning of 2009.

    Nationally, only 9% of adult consumers rate the economy as good or excellent. Forty-nine percent (49%) believe the economy is in poor condition. Men are slightly more optimistic than women when rating the economy. Twelve percent (12%) of men rate the economy as good or excellent, while only 7% of women feel the same way. Meanwhile, 47% of men feel the economy is in poor condition and 50% of women agree.
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/indexes/rasmussen_consumer_index2/rasmussen_consumer_index

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  95. /sadly, I've been told as much of people with Ph.D.s Just goes to show you that education is no sure remedy against ignorance and hatred.

    And if I remember my '48 history accurately, the *cough*Jordyptians*cough* cleared out behind the invading armies with the obvious understanding that they would just return to their homes after the nasty Joos were cleared out.

    That's why I hate that loaded word Occupation.
    A US President using it, well, it's a signal word, you know ?

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  96. Real,
    Jeter = class act all the way

    People like him who are not in it to be praises but instead do their thing well and praise others, are regrettably a thing of the past. This kind of humble gentlemanly sportsmanship should be the thing many more people from many more walks of life should emulate.
    One might dream, can't I ?

    How are you Realwest 'n the rest of the gang?

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  97. And more from Rasmussen:
    What They Told Us: Reviewing Last Week’s Key Polls
    Saturday, September 26, 2009
    Few nations are as generous with their time and money as the United States, but right now Americans are a suspicious bunch.

    Sixty-six percent (66%) of voters nationwide say they’re at least somewhat angry about the current policies of the federal government. Thirty-six percent (36%) are Very Angry.

    Despite the high level of political anger last year that helped fuel President Obama’s election, 59% say the current level of political anger in the country is higher than it was when George W. Bush was president.

    A lot of that anger is directed at the people who are spending billions and billion of dollars of taxpayer money. That helps explain why members of Congress have now surpassed corporate CEOs to hold the least favorably regarded profession in the country.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/weekly_updates/what_they_told_us_reviewing_last_week_s_key_polls

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  98. Callahan23 said...

    Well said, DH.
    Good Afternoon!

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  99. Wasn't there a substantial "uptick" in government employees around the Carter years?

    Sorry about the yard sale, littleoldlady. We've been seeing that here in Tampa for quite awhile now. This is the land of the $12/hour workers, and those jobs have been losing ground. (Can't link to anything -- just my experience with our company's residents which number at about 5,000.)

    What was the thing (a corps of some kind) called that O talked about creating that would equal the Military budget?

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  100. All of the above from Rasmussen probably leads to this:
    Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
    Sunday, September 27, 2009
    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Sunday shows that 30% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -10 (see trends).

    Today is the first time in nearly three weeks that the Approval Index has fallen to negative double digits. Check out our review of last week’s key polls to see “What They Told Us.”
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

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  101. Obama wants kids in school year round

    We need to be more competative yada yada yada.

    No, Mr. President. The issue is not how much time people spend in school. It's the quality of instruction -- curriculum, teacher training etc. The problem is not the length of the school day but that we have loaded the school down with acres of inappropriate social duties that have nothing to do with teaching students math, reading, science, communication and reasoning skills, or much other than empty self-esteem and Marxism of the shoddiest kind.

    I spent years teaching graduate courses in education. I met hundreds of elementary and middle school teachers. Most of them were very nice. Some of them were actually very smart. But none of them knew anything. Nothing. They had not learned anything in education school other than pop-psychology and leftist politics. The best ones were eager to drink up whatever I had to offer them; the worst ones were insulted that I had shown them just how ignorant they were.

    I remember the first time I taught Geography. When I started the section on physical geography I started talking about continental drift. NO ONE in the class had heard of the idea. One was positively disturbed by the idea that the earth's surface moved and hadn't always been the way it is now. These were not flat-earth creationists -- they were all good liberal secularists. Their ignorance on this and other subjects -- subjects they were required to teach -- was simply terrifying.

    More school will not address this problem. If anything, what we'll see is the inverse of a common statment -- nothingness will expand to consume available time. They will spend more time in school and learn less. Meanwhile, the additional days will be taken up with more fluff.

    Frankly, I've become cynical enough about this to wager that what's really driving this is a desire to create high-paying union sinacures to make sure there are more people paying dues into the NEA "elect Socialists and more Socialists" coffers, and pressure from radical feminists to make sure that the government provides free day care year-round for anyone between the ages of 2 days and 18 years.

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  102. That's why I hate that loaded word Occupation.
    A US President using it, well, it's a signal word, you know ?


    Indeed it is. It signals that he's an ignorant, leftist bigot.

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  103. Hey Callahan23 - I'm sure that there are a lot of people in all walks of life that exhibit the same characterisics as does Derek Jeter, but he plays shortstop for the NY Yankees and so we hear about him.
    Ordinary folks with the same perspecives just aren't "newsworthy" to the MSM.
    Good to see you today!

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  104. 30% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -10 (see trends).


    So this means that 40% of the people are racists and only 30% are good, decent, progressive folks committed to social justice and positive change?

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  105. Merkel Wins German Election, Has Slim Majority for Center-Right Government

    /won't allow me to copy the text, but it looks like socialists took a beating, Callahan?

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  106. Say Lucius, that comment on education in the US was just SO SPOT ON I hadda say so to you.
    Thanks for that one.

    And,btw, I never did get those pancakes, littleoldlady can really JUMP can't she?!

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  107. Go Angela!

    Obama must be really pissed -- he HATES her.

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  108. Lucius

    Serious question.

    Is he really ignorant? I see him as exactly what he IS. I see that he is doing exactly what he intended. It seems to me that he(him?) and his kind are drooling at the possibility that with him in power, all (or most) of their agenda is coming to fruition.

    /All that is left is to "change" the Constitution somehow.

    //My conspiracy thinking for the day. Please ignore if too stupid.

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  109. Thanks Real -- here are a couple of hotcakes under the table.

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  110. Lucius,

    I have a neice by marriage who has a masters in special needs education. She lives in upstate NY with her husband and son.

    She home schools their son and no longer teaches. She said all the teachers are allowed to do is social work.

    When I was married to my first husband, his daughter lived with us from 7th grade until she graduated high school. Somewhere around the 10th grade, she had an English Lit class in which she was given credit for reading - Glamour magazine.

    Montgomery Blair, HS, Silver Spring MD

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  111. gettinby

    I think he really is just ignorant. That doesn't mean he doesn't have a plan or doesn't intend to do certain things. But no one as arrogant as he is can be bothered with learning anything. It's that perfect combination of ignorance (a willful ignorance) and arrogance that is terrifying. He doesn't really know very much, but thinks he knows and understands everything.

    Of course, that weakness - a weakness of character more than one of intellect in the absolute sense -- will be his undoing as it was Carter's. The question is how much damage he'll do in the meantime.

    As for the ideology, years ago I read an excellent social-psychological study of student radicals. One of the points was that for certain subgroups, ideology provided a way of sounding smarter than one was. I can't help suspect that for Barry and his buds, their leftism is a handly windowdressing that keeps others -- and themselves -- from realizing just how shallow, vacuous, and devoid of genuine ideas they really are.

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  112. gettinby
    Please ignore if too stupid.

    Well, then, I'm stupid, too. Yesterday I proposed a thought experiment to Lincolntf:

    If Obama WANTED to ruin this country, what would he do differently?

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  113. Hey, thanks a lot Lucius! I liked the way you faked the overhead and when littleoldlady jumped, you gave 'em to me underhand! LOL!

    I love you litleoldlady!! And don't despair, you're NOT short, you're just vertically challenged!
    ;)

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  114. Silver Spring MD

    And imagine what it's like in the working-class, high ethnic/immigrant schools like the ones where yours truly lives.

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  115. Not to worry, 3CP0! I've invested in step ladders all of my life and now have quite the collection!

    /there's worse things than being short!
    //I'll let you know what those things are when I think of them... ;-)

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  116. Hi ATH.

    I saw your post about the new fad/rage that government actually may know more than we do about US! Amazing stuff.

    /I shall commence forwarding my bills directly to them.
    //Oh, and the emails and telephone calls from friends and family who believe they have problems when, in fact, the government can declare to them they don't. See? Easy button.

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  117. Merkel Wins German Election, Has Slim Majority for Center-Right Government

    It's not the final results being based up TV & exit polls but I'll take it as very good news with a 'WHEW!'.

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  118. Well y'all it's been grand, but as we approach if not go over 400 comments just on lol's fruitcup post, I've gotta go and take care of a few things!
    I hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

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  119. eatit,
    Merkel Wins German Election, Has Slim Majority for Center-Right Government

    spot on, every media channel predicts a black (CDU) / yellow (FDP)coalition. Center-right (mind you that is center-right in German terms).
    The social democrats SPD have received a blow. They've lost a whooping 11% since the last election.

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  120. Lucius,

    Not too long ago, I read the excellent Baader-Meinhof: The Inside Story of the R.A.F by Stefan Aust. Aust actually knew these people personally (he once kidnapped Meinhof's kids to keep her from turning them over to the PLO to babysit).

    What struck me was how motivated they were by dispair. It's not that they had anything to dispair of, but to FIND something to dispair about made them feel meaninful. It was nihilism par excellance.

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  121. Ah, hadda come back and tell y'all that Erik The Red has the NFL 3rd Week thread up - just click the Newer Post button, lower left of this page!

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  122. I love it when my fantasy football opponent starts an inactive player.

    /makes it that much easier

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  123. gettinby
    Easy button

    Yep. Right down to wathcing your kids at the bus stop.

    Lisa Snyder of Middleville says her neighborhood school bus stop is right in front of her home. It arrives after her neighbors need to be at work, so she watches three of their children for 15-40 minutes until the bus comes.

    The Department of Human Services received a complaint that Snyder was operating an illegal child care home. DHS contacted Snyder and told her to get licensed, stop watching her neighbors' kids, or face the consequences.

    "It's ridiculous." says Snyder. "We are friends helping friends!" She added that she accepts no money for babysitting...

    A DHS spokesperson would not comment on the specifics of the case but says they have no choice but to comply with state law, which is designed...


    ...to protect Michigan children.

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  124. should have given the h/t to my last comment to Instapundit - and now I gotta run and pretend I'm useful.

    see ya later!

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  125. Attila -- I remember reading a review of that book. It sounded both really good and really depressing.

    Radicals tend to be depressive, angry, and extremely immature.

    This is the book I was talking about: The Roots of Radicalism by Stanley Rothman and Robert Lichter. What Rothman and Lichter did was replicate the famous experiments that Adorno and Co. did that were supposed to "prove" that fascism was pathological, but also entirely a matter of the right. Most of the folks that claim that "conservatives are mental" took their cues from Adorno.

    Rothman and Lichter found flaws in the original study, and re did it, but focussed on leftis radicals at colleges in the early 1970s. What they found was clear evidence of a totalitarian personality that was much more evident on the left. Moreover, they found definate differences between Jewish and Gentile leftist radicals. It also suggested a profound difference between American and European leftists.

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  126. Lucius. Wow! Nicely explained and sincerely appreciated. I never thought, after what Carter did to our country, that this could happen again.

    ATH - good one! What would he do differently? Can he, with Congress, aggressively and speedily shut down conservative talk radio and take control of the internet? I know they're "working on it" so to speak, but could they actual DO it?

    /Sorry for tardiness. Am doing chores between reading and absorbing such great information.

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  127. A DHS spokesperson would not comment on the specifics of the case but says they have no choice but to comply with state law

    "I was just following orders. I was just obeying the law."

    Yep. That defense worked real well at Nuremberg ....

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  128. Y'all move upstairs, please?

    /probably better food up there anyway! ;-)

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