Monday, September 28, 2009

The Official Heavily Caffeinated Monday Morning Open Thread


Good morning, C2ers! It's a brand new week, I've boiled some coffee on a spoon with my lighter and injected it straight into my vein, so let's hit the ground running.


A local TV station that reported on Chicagoans NOT wanting the Olympics has been told NOT to run the report again, insiders tell the DRUDGE REPORT! The Chicago Olympic Committee told FOX Chicago that its broadcast "would harm Chicago's chances" to be awarded the games. The station's news director ordered staff to hold fire after the report aired once last Thursday morning, claims a source.

More on the media from Newsbusters:


The self-proclaimed 'paper of record' was extremely slow in picking up on two recent stories. The first, the 'trutherism' of former White House Green Jobs Czar Van Jones, was initially reported by Pajamas Media, and later by Glenn Beck on his Fox News talk show. The Times did not cover the story until after Jones had resigned.

Later, the Times neglected to report on the undercover sting operation that exposed ACORN for offering assistance in a bogus child prostitution ring. The Times reported on Congress's votes to de-fund ACORN, but neglected to mention the sting operation that inspired the votes.

And from the New York Post:

The unemployment rate for young Americans has exploded to 52.2 percent -- a post-World War II high, according to the Labor Dept. -- meaning millions of Americans are staring at the likelihood that their lifetime earning potential will be diminished and, combined with the predicted slow economic recovery, their transition into productive members of society could be put on hold for an extended period of time.

Of course, even if they find gainful employment, I don't think that will make much difference - they still won't be productive members of society. HEY YOU KIDS! GET OFFA MY LAWN!!!!!

But anyway... I hope you all are having a pleasant Monday morning. As always, this is an open thread, so enjoy!

217 comments:

  1. Hey Fidelity, STOP KICKING OUT MY OPTIONS ORDERS!

    /this is annoying

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  2. Morning Running Bare, eatitorwearit. Man have I been jonesing since I got up this morning. How is everyone today?

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  3. Yes, but at least we turned off Word Verification, so it can't be all bad...

    I mean, it's not like the guy from Midnight Oil got a job in government and decided to rewrite the lyrics to Beds are Burning to be about Global Warming, or anything.

    Cuz if something like that happened, it would really suck.

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  4. Hey Ya'll Good Morning ... late so drive-by hello off to feed the tax machine have a great day!

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  5. Doing well. I'm not supposed to mention coffee at all, because I fear that LittleOldLady will kick my ass if I do, so...

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  6. And for the latest science installment. China finds bird-like dinosaur with four wings.

    /gotta love paleontology

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  7. RB: I don't know about kick, but she would probably cut out your fruitcup ration. :)

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  8. Iran tests most advanced missiles

    Iran tested its most advanced missiles Monday to cap two days of war games, raising more international concern and stronger pressure to quickly come clean on the newly revealed nuclear site Tehran was secretly constructing.

    State television said the powerful Revolutionary Guard, which controls Iran's missile program, successfully tested upgraded versions of the medium-range Shahab-3 and Sajjil missiles. Both can carry warheads and reach up to 1,200 miles (2,000 kilometers), putting Israel, U.S. military bases in the Middle East, and parts of Europe within striking distance.


    /nothing to see here, finish your waffle

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  9. /gotta love paleontology

    Some think that dinosaurs evolved into birds. I think they might be right - I've seen the way crows look at me. Like I'm a piece of meat.

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  10. Well, so Iran has assured me that they are merely exploring nuclear energy for good purposes, it's not all that big of a deal. /ObamaAdministrationMode

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  11. Good morning all!

    Hope everyone had a great weekend.... The wife and I got lots done around the house and took some time to watch the Huskers whomp on the Ragin' Cajuns (Louisiana, Lafayette).

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  12. So, anything else going on today?

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  13. Controversial Obama Chias back on shelf

    CVS stores have started selling the controversial Barack Obama Chia pottery plant kits that Walgreens dropped last April amid protests.

    Now, Joseph Enterprises Inc. is prepping to move the 500,000 kits that it had stored in four Chicago-area warehouses since Walgreens bailed and other retailers decided to stay away.

    "Everybody was afraid that it might be considered racist," said Joseph Pedott, president of the San Francisco-based company.


    /Chia pets are controversial and racist?

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  14. Running Bare said...

    So, anything else going on today?
    ________________________________________________

    The Chicago Olympic Committee "ordered" the local Fox News affiliate not to run an anti-Olympic ad (against bringing the Olympics to Chicago).

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  15. /Chia pets are controversial and racist?

    Only if they portray Teh One in a foolish light. Can't mock our first post-racial president.

    /can't wait till he's done and gone.

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  16. PaladinPhil said...

    Only if they portray Teh One in a foolish light. Can't mock our first post-racial president.


    /guess these are a big no no then

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  17. /guess these are a big no no then

    *snicker* For those people that just can't get enough of him and want to be even closer to him. :)

    /I wonder how many they have sold and would love to see a demographic breakdown. :D

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  18. Good morning C2ers. I hope everyone has a great week.

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  19. Morning all.
    I see that President Wee-Wee is continuing to ignore Afghanistan and Iran in favor of more pressing issues. Like making sure his crooked cronies in Chicago will get to chow down at an "Olympic"-size trough.

    (To be fair, worrying about those imaginary weather reports from the future is also taking up a lot of his time...)

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  20. Hey Lincolntf

    Welcome. Great to see so many new faces over here.:)))

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  21. Hi Erik. Good to see you all, too.

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  22. Hey sas. Not much. IIt is still early and C2 has just opened for the day.

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  23. Good morning Erik. Looks like a nice and quiet day here.

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  24. So, what do you guys think about Obama going to Denmark. I'm hypothesizing that he would never go in person unless he knew in advance that he was going to get a "Yes".
    I just can't see him entering into any contest unless the fix was already in.

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  25. Lincolntf: I just think he wants to bask in the glory of social Europe. Never mind that Europe is slowly turning right. I wonder when the next election is in Britain?

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  26. Lots of Shiite coming out of Iran today.

    FNA

    Just scan the headlines...

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  27. I think Obama just likes the trappings of the jet-setter scene, and the adoration, the perks of the job, his own plane, and the like.

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  28. That's true. He's much more likely to get an adoring crowd over there than is he is on this side of the pond.
    Though I wonder if any groups in Denmark will protest his visit? Has he ticked anyone off over there? Those Euros can be feisty.

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  29. Saquatch- I was reading your link and got curious about the Sports category so I clicked on the article about the "Asian Indoor Games".

    I got a kick out of the categories:

    "...sports include aerobics gym, billiards and snooker, boxing, bowling, chess, dance sport, dragon and lion dance, e-sports, fin swimming, futsal (indoor football), hoop sepak takraw, indoor athletics, indoor archery, kick boxing, muay Thai, 3 vs.3 basketball, pencak silat, petanque, shuttle cock, swimming, and wushu."

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  30. I think Obama just likes the trappings of the jet-setter scene, and the adoration, the perks of the job, his own plane, and the like.

    Definitely. Sounds like a standard fare Socialist to me.
    We're just too stoopid to see he's tryin' to help us, ya know...

    This has been one long year, and we haven't even hit october yet.

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  31. This has been one long year, and we haven't even hit october yet.


    True 'dat.

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  32. Has a US president ever gone begging to the Olympic committee? I heard that Michelle was going to go, but they were afraid she wouldn't make a good impression.

    Good Morning, {all y'all}, BTW!

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  33. Good morning AtillaTheHoney. How are you today? Have enough coffee yet?

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  34. Lincolntf
    I see that President Wee-Wee is continuing to ignore Afghanistan and Iran in favor of more pressing issues.

    He has no time for such with all his speaking and television engagements.

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  35. Lincolntf said...

    What ?
    No stoning ?

    What kind of ME country are they anyhow ?

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  36. Has a US president ever gone begging to the Olympic committee? I heard that Michelle was going to go, but they were afraid she wouldn't make a good impression.


    It is embarrassing, is what it is. We look weak, insecure, and pathetic with this man-child as president.

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  37. Hey ya Paladin

    Yeah, I did the IV thing at about 7, then very busy mornign in meatspace, now I can sit at my desk and try to catch up.

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  38. Oh, and morning everyone!

    Can't type everyone out, gotta do this fast so the boss doesn't catch me.

    Mwaaahaaahaaa,

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  39. Good to hear ATH, btw you might want to check out my blog. :)

    /I used to be an aspiring general dontcha know?

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  40. Running Bare: Zawahri thinks Obama's a fraud(as in liar, cheat..etc, etc).

    Damned me to hell but it's hard to disagree with the goat-%&(#^$@ SoB. 'No Bombs' Obama has even managed to whiz-off India: Obama is ruining India’s security climate

    ---He may not relish the comparison but it is now becoming increasingly obvious that Mr Barack Obama is the most hostile American President for India since Richard Nixon. In the eight months he has been in office, Mr Obama has snubbed India more than once. He has sent repeated signals that New Delhi is not integral to his Asian security architecture.---

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  41. Re: The Won in Copenhagen:

    This is going to more farcial than that risable UN charade.

    He's going to write checks he can't cash - and everybody will know it. The Europeans have his number.

    "The science is clear. The time is now. Our shared values demand that we exert all our political will to do the right thing even in the face of those rat bastids at Fox News."

    See? I can even right his speeches now.

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  42. Good Morning C2'ers!

    (Sheet...cut-off the first part of my post.) It's gunna be one of those weeks.

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  43. He has sent repeated signals that New Delhi is not integral to his Asian security architecture

    Maybe someone shuld tell India that it's ok, Obama doesn't really have an Asian security architecture...

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  44. Atilla...did you see where our guberming is giving 1/2 billion to a Gore 'green' start-up company? ....in Finland? Things that make you say, "WTF, Over?!?"

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  45. Running Bare:

    You mean he has no security arhitecture period. He's depending on hopey changey unicorn farts for all our security needs.

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  46. enuff, from your link

    There has been a remarkable absence of clarity on Mr Obama’s strategic goals. In the early months, it was easy to pretend he was making up his mind.

    Just wait till these people figure it out.

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  47. RB...I shouldn't be laughing but your oh-so correct!

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  48. enuff - yes, Fox covered it this morning. Did you see that those hybrids are set to sell for $89k

    Big market niche there yessirree

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  49. Let us see what's happening today....

    Iran flipped the bird to the world over nucs.
    Iran is testing missiles with range to reach Europe.
    Afghanistan is heating up, Obama's hand picked General, in a "necessary" war has asked for more troops and Obama said basically, later I'm busy. He's talked with McChrystal once in the last two months.

    What's so all fired important that Obama puts all the above back burner?

    Going Copenhagen to get the Olympics to Chicago. Must be a payoff, think of all the tourists to be mugged, talk about stimulus.

    And, fixing health care, which ain't broke just needs a tuneup.

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  50. What's so all fired important that Obama puts all the above back burner?


    Socialist Health Care. Why do you ask? I mean, the man only has so much political capital - he's gotta use it where it matters. You know, the important stuff.

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  51. RB,

    Man's gotta' have priorities.....


    I think mine will be to stay drunk until '12.

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  52. enuff
    Maybe their going to make something like this:
    http://www.worldfirstracing.co.uk/

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  53. You know, there are some people who just Do. Not. Know. When. To. Shut. Up.

    Or learn from Scott McClellan, for that matter.

    Former Bush speechwriter Matt Latimer challenges 'Bushies'

    I saw him on the talk shows over the weekend. He has and extremely high 'ewwww' factor. He said his book was 'funny'. Well, maybe if you're a 15 year old boy who thinks fart jokes are funny.

    The chances of anyone giving this doofus the time of day are somewhere between nil and shit-for-brains.

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  54. Good morning everyone.

    Getting ready for the lunch rush, thought I would pop in and say HOWDY!

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  55. Morning Jorline. Fairly quiet around here so far.

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  56. What's the special of the day, Jorline? I'm hongry!

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  57. Is fearless leader heading to Europe to pitch Chicago on our dime?

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  58. Jorline: My personal theory is that someone from the Chicago Machine is calling in some markers.

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  59. Hey P2, hope you're well today.

    Lunch special is a Double Meat Double Cheese Chipotle Burger. My chipotle sauce is killer.

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  60. Howdy Jorline!

    Hey, what kind of restaurant do you have (it's a tough business, I know!)

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  61. Oh...I still have Grilled Tuna w/ Lemon/Dill sauce.

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  62. Jorline,

    Is fearless leader heading to Europe to pitch Chicago on our dime?

    That'll show those Iranians to get all uppity!

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  63. Lunch special is a Double Meat Double Cheese Chipotle Burger. My chipotle sauce is killer.

    Oh...I still have Grilled Tuna w/ Lemon/Dill sauce.

    I'll have one of each!
    To go.

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  64. Tufo..or like this.

    yuk...that 4-letter word beginning with 'w' is interfering with stuff.

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  65. This is an EXCELLENT idea.

    Make McChrystal Testify"

    Republicans want to make the idea of a high stakes congressional hearing with Gen. Stanley McChrystal look inevitable.

    On Monday, Sen. Kit Bond (R-Mo.), the top Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee, became the latest GOP lawmaker to call on the top U.S. general in Afghanistan to come to Capitol Hill to testify about the need for more troops.

    “While the president doesn’t want to hear from General McChrystal, Congress does,” Bond said. “It’s baffling that the President has made time to pitch the Olympics in Copenhagen, appear on Letterman and every other station except the Food Network and Fox, but not to talk to our top commander-on-the-ground.”

    Some Democrats, like House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.), have said McChrystal should testify, and Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), the Intelligence chairwoman, told Fox on Sunday that she has no problem with such a hearing.

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  66. Morning ATH.

    It like a mini Chili's with a smaller menu. Burgers, chicken and fish. The burgers are all made to order...old pharmacy style and they're killer. We're also known for Grilled Tilapia and our Cilantro/Jalapeno mayo with garlic. YUM!

    It's a tough business, but I've been in it since I was 17.

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  67. lol...hey rsrn...you got it bud.

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  68. Time to head up front, customers calling.

    Later

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  69. This is hilarious

    How to make conservatives less angry

    Actively ignore them: The most basic strategy to try and keep conservatives from being so angry is to never, ever listen to them. If they try to discuss an issue with you, just cover your ears and scream, “Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!” If they realize there is no chance we’ll even listen to them, maybe they’ll decide to just give up trying to have their uneducated viewpoints.

    Call them racists: If we shout “Racist!” every time they say something, maybe they’ll finally reflect on the racism that motivates them against a black president and give up whatever silly cause they think they’re pushing. If they dispute the racism accusation, point out how sensitive they are about the charge and how that further proves it’s true (people who really aren’t racist shouldn’t have any problem with being called racist). If further evidence is needed, point out to them that the president is black and they are white and that it’s obvious to everyone that a white person saying bad things about an underprivileged black person is quite racist. If the conservative isn’t white, though, this can be confusing. Make sure to give that person a pamphlet describing the political views he is supposed to have based on his race. If the person doesn’t read the pamphlet, you might have to try using a racial slur. It’s okay, if the person deserves it.

    Point out how much smarter Obama is than they are: Obama is obviously very smart (obviously!), but somehow conservatives are overlooking that simple fact. Maybe they’ll be less angry if we keep emphasizing how Obama and his staff are much, much smarter than they are, and in fact they are very stupid compared to Obama and other liberals. Then conservatives will realize that Obama, being smarter than them, probably knows what he’s doing, so there is nothing to fear and be angry about unless you’re a really stupid person.


    (more at the link)

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  70. Jorline

    Cilantro/Jalapeno mayo with garlic.

    I'm begging - on my knees here.

    Oh, man...............

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  71. AtillaTheHoney said...
    This is hilarious


    Right out of the ole' playbook.

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  72. Atilla,

    Jorline is a cruel person.... downright evil, I managed to grab a slice of cold toast for breakfast.... my stomach is downright howling after reading that stuff.....

    ;-P

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  73. Atilla...as we talked yesterday, that's exactly what Obama wants - GoP votes for ObamaCare in exchange for Afghanistan support. That he's stalling on AF by running-out-the-clock with Reid & Rahm forcing ObamaCare passage by, at the latest, T-Day is obvious. It's disgusting, sick and extremely dangerous.

    It's extortion. If O blows-it...as much as I hate it to say it, ruck'im.

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  74. What's so all fired important that Obama puts all the above back burner?



    Cronies will be awarded fat contracts and the taxpayers will be paying for the games for a very long time.

    The Atlanta model called for a great deal of corporate sponsorship to pick up the majority of the tab, which infuriated the socialists at the IOC. They wanted the taxpayers, the vast majority of whom would not be allowed to attend the games because of the ticket lottery system, to fund everything. You can bet Chicago will follow the IOC's dictates.

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  75. enuff
    GoP votes for ObamaCare in exchange for Afghanistan support

    I honestly don't think a health insurance reform bill will pass. The Dems could pull the nuke option but that would sacrifice a lot of seats in 2010. AND, keep in mind, none of this is supposed to take effect until 2013 - after the 2012 election. If the Dems lose their majority the Republicans will retroactively kill the whole thing.

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  76. JCM
    Jorline is a cruel person.... downright evil

    yeppers on that one. But you know what? I'm not a bad cook. I know how to make my own mayo - I bet I could come up with something pretty close. As a matter of fact, I'm going to have to, because right now, I CAN'T STAND IT!

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  77. Turkish premier warns against military strike on Iran

    Istanbul - Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has warned against a military strike on Iran's controversial nuclear plants, according to Turkish media reports Monday. Such an attack would be "madness" and its terrible consequences would not just affect Iran, Turkish newspapers quoted Erdogan as saying.

    We are completely against nuclear weapons in the Middle East," daily newspaper Radikal quoted the prime minister as saying at the end of his trip to the United States.

    Sooo...I'm against nuclear weapons in the ME, but it would be madness to attack Irans' nuclear facilities. Nicely put. Sheesh, gimme a Tylenol.
    Rest of the article is, of course, about Israels' nukes....
    Pantload.

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  78. Here we go again in the BIG SURPRISE THERE Dept.

    CAIR Leader Tied to Nazi-Style Islamist Mosque"

    Melanie Elturk has been with CAIR-Michigan since January of this year. Even though she is somewhat new to the organization, she holds a prominent position within it, listed on the CAIR-Michigan website as one of its top three leaders.

    To attest to her leadership in the group, Elturk has been featured as the spokesperson for various CAIR-Michigan videos. One of these videos asks and attempts to answer the question, “What should you do if you are approached by individuals soliciting politically extreme statements?” Of course, who is CAIR to be lecturing anyone on extremism, when CAIR itself is an extremist organization?

    As recent as November of last year, CAIR was named a co-conspirator for a Hamas financing trial, where all of the defendants were found guilty on all charges. The defendants included leaders of the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (HLF), a Hamas financing network. CAIR had been created as a part of the same terrorist umbrella group as HLF, the American Palestine Committee, headed by the then-global leader of Hamas, Mousa Abu Marzook. It was this association that led the FBI to recently cut ties with CAIR.

    This must have not mattered much to Ms. Elturk, as she took her position with CAIR maybe two months following the trial. Either that or it drove her to CAIR. Elturk had already been involved with an extremist group prior to CAIR — the Islamic Organization of North America (IONA) — a radical mosque located in Warren, Michigan.

    IONA is the American arm of Tanzeem-e-Islami (TI), a Nazi-style Islamist movement located in Pakistan, whose website preaches violence and hatred towards non-Muslims. The movement was founded by Israr Ahmad, a religious fanatic who, according to IONA’s website, had broken away from the Muslim Brotherhood affiliate Jamaat-e-Islami (JI) in 1957 because of the group’s “involvement in the electoral politics.”

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  79. Atilla...then force them or let them play their hand on Ocare right now. If Obama's comfortable letting AF stay on the back-burner...fine, let it stay there.

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  80. enuff

    I'm been saying the same thing for weeks

    SHUT UP AND VOTE

    But they can't.

    Which is the big reason I don't think they'll get anything passed.

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  81. They can't get anything passed because of the vast right wing conspiracy, according to Bill Clinton. Just because they own the white house, both houses of congress, and the media...don't underestimate the diabolical reach of the evil conservatives.
    :D

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  82. There Are Only Two Choices Left on Iran
    An Israeli or U.S. military strike now, or a nuclear Tehran soon.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204518504574420641457091318.html

    "The Iranian regime wants nuclear weapons and has invested vast sums to get both the devices and the means to deliver them. The Russians and Chinese have made soothing murmurs of disapproval but have repeatedly made it clear that they will not go along with measures that would cripple the Iranian economy (and deprive them of markets). German and Swiss businessmen will happily sell Iran whatever goods their not very exacting governments will permit, and our terrified Arab allies have nothing like the military capability to match their own understandable fears. So let's be serious about the choice, because we have less than a year to make it."

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  83. Kenneth, we have NO choice. There's no way we can take out those facilities - even if we find every last one.

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  84. Atilla, my fear is a large focus on AF right now with an ensuing public uproar; thus forcing some of our more weak-kneed Gop members(pick a name) into deals they wouldn't/don't have to make.

    Chew; right-foot; chew; left-foot; chew; right-foot;.... ;)

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  85. AtillaTheHoney said...

    Kenneth, we have NO choice. There's no way we can take out those facilities - even if we find every last one.


    Maybe, maybe not. What we can do is set it back by a few years or more. Then maybe the Persians can take Iran back.

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  86. Wow.

    He was a soldier in one of the most fanatical divisions in Hitler's war machine.
    As a member of the SS, Heinrich Steinmeyer expected little mercy as he surrendered to British troops towards the end of the Second World War.
    But instead, he says he was treated with humanity by both the troops who captured him and the guards at the Scottish prison camp where he was kept until the end of the war.
    Sixty-five years later, Mr Steinmeyer has pledged to leave his home and life savings of £430,000 to elderly residents in the village of Comrie, Perthshire, as a gesture of gratitude.


    When Mr Steinmeyer dies, his ashes will be scattered at Cultybraggan and his estate passed to a trust he has set up to help the elderly in the area.

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  87. Erik
    What we can do is set it back by a few years or more

    I was thinking about this problem last night. The only thing I could come up with that I think might help is targeted assassinations.

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  88. Kenneth,

    There has been only two choice for a long time.

    But nobody wanted to believe it. The Mad Mullahs of the Cult of the 12th Imam would not, will not be deterred from seeking the bomb, by anything other than force.

    The problem is now, that Iran has significant Air Defenses, the Iran Air Force is not really a factor, but even an aging F-14 can get lucky. There are multiple hardened sites to target.

    There are two options.
    A Nuclear Mad Mullahs.
    Or a massive, sustained air campaign to clear the strike corridors of air defense, eliminate the Air Force, and pound every know site, and every suspected site, then strike and re-strike until it is certain Iran can't restart it's nuclear program for a long time.

    As good as the IAF is, the amount of sorties it's going to take to MAKE ABSOLUTELY SURE can only be done by US.

    Right now, getting the Olympics to Chicago in '16 is much important.

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  89. The only thing I could come up with that I think might help is targeted assassinations.

    And I don't see that happening either. Not even the most conservative CIC will sign off on that. And with the amount of leaks in Government there is no way to keep something like that quiet.

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  90. Kenneth said...

    It all comes down to the Intelligence.
    What exactly do we know ? Where the hell are the facilities ?
    Netanyahu is going to be driving this, we're getting extremely short on time, you're right. Obama promised a lot and has failed thus far, proving how naive and arrogant he is yet once again.

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  91. ETR,

    If we're going to strike the sites that will set them back a few years correct.

    Frankly, we've been at war with Iran since Nov. 4, '79. If (that's a big if) we're going to target facilities C3 should also be on the list.

    Give the Persians and opportunity to step in.

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  92. Give the Persians and opportunity to step in.

    JCM that just may be the ONLY thing that we could do. The US may be able to set up and start a revolution, but I wonder if we would follow it through to the conclusion. We don't have a great track record, lately of finishing what we start. If we don't follow through all we do is more harm to the Persians.

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  93. Uh, maybe something is being missed in the translation? Whatever, Silvio Berlusconi sure is good entertainment.

    "I bring you greetings from a person who is called...a person who is sun-tanned...Barack Obama," the smiling 72-year-old politician told a crowd of cheering supporters in Milan on Sunday.

    "You wouldn't believe it, but they go sunbathing at the beach together - his wife is also sun-tanned."


    Mr Berlusconi, famed for his year-round tan, sparked international outrage last November when he first described Mr Obama as "sun-tanned".

    What.
    Ever.

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  94. The last time 'the Persians stepped in' they gave us Khomeini.

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  95. JCM says...

    awful lot of chatter and saber rattling going on from Iran, much more than usual, don't you think ?

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  96. Well, as I peruse the UK papers, I find this.

    INTELLIGENCE chief Sir John Scarlett has been told that Saudi Arabia is ready to allow Israel to bomb Iran’s new nuclear site.

    The scene is set for a showdown next Thursday when Iranian officials meet representatives of the E3+3 group of Britain, France, Germany, the US, Russia and China in Geneva.

    Significantly, Russia, which has previously resisted pressure for sanctions, said it also found the latest disclosures “disturbing”.


    'Cept I don't believe a word Russia says. Oh, wait, maybe this time they're telling the truth. They find the DISCLOSURES disturbing - NOT the actual facilities.

    Oh, fuck, we got caught.

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  97. Oh, fuck, we got caught.

    Exactly. No effin' way they do not know...

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  98. Atilla,

    That wasn't the Persians, it was a combination of things, there was a lot of Soviet agitation, but mostly the piece of crap Rabbit Bait pulled the rug out from under the Shah and green lighted Khomeini's return.

    The Persians didn't want Khomeini, and the moderates in Iran were ready to throw that old bastard out to prevent conflict with the US. But Rabbit Bait is such a dickless appeasing wonder he made Khomeini look good and strengthen him.

    There has been a low grade conflict in Iran since them between the Persian and Islamic.

    Almost all the credit for giving Iran to the Mad Mullahs belongs to that rat bastard Rabbit Bait.

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  99. sas,

    Be ready for a demonstration followed by demands.

    Soon.

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  100. JCM

    Oh, hey, - Khomeini killed an Iranian friend of mine and his entire family. I know the deal.

    However. My friend was a member of the deposed royal family and therefore quite privleged. Even HE was terrified of SAVAK. The Shah bears a great deal of responsibility for his own downfall and however misguided Carter was, the depredations SAVAK perpetrated on the Iranian people were becoming more and more will known at the time - Carter would have had a hard time supporting that.

    But you lived in Iran, right? Why am I telling you this?

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  101. Atilla,

    I lost friends to the Mad Mullahs also.

    Correct in the climate the Shah had to go. However a more orderly transition could have been worked out instead of handing the country to Khomeini. A show of force, or even backbone over the Embassy would very likely ended with Khomeini being tossed.

    There were a lot of dynamics, and Rabbit Bait and his advisers did everything, and I mean everything exactly wrong.

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  102. hmmmm...wonder what they're going to be talking about...

    Syria's Deputy FM invited for talks in Washington

    A senior Syrian official has been invited to Washington for talks, a U.S. Embassy official said Monday, in the latest signal of the Obama administration's efforts to improve relations with a country deemed a state sponsor of terrorism.

    The upcoming visit by Syria's deputy foreign minister, Fayssal Mekdad, is the first in about five years and is part of U.S. efforts to improve strained relations with Damascus.

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  103. Gotta run C2ers. I should be back online later tonight. Going to shift through a ton of papers to see if the gas station I want to buy is viable. The current owners filing/accounting system leaves lots to be desired. :(

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  104. Gazprom to bid for Iraqi fields in consortium with Turkish company

    MOSCOW, September 28 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's energy giant Gazprom will bid for Iraqi oil and gas fields in a consortium with Turkey's state-run oil company, a Russian business daily said on Monday, citing the Turkish Energy Minister.
    Iraq will sell 14 blocks with total reserves of 41 billion barrels of oil and some 740 billion cubic meters of natural gas as 10 lots in December. Turkish Petroleum Corporation (TPAO) will compete for six lots, and will form a consortium with Gazprom to bid for the other four lots, Vedomosti quoted Taner Yildiz as saying.


    Shit,and all of this time I thought Bush stole it all.

    //

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  105. Bullshit alert......

    'World Leader' to Obama: Explain Why 'They're Putting a Hitler Moustache On You'

    "I was up at the G20 -- just a little aside -- I was up at the G20, and some of you saw those big flags and all the world leaders come in and Michelle and I are shaking hands with them," the president said. "One of the leaders -- I won't mention who it was -- he comes up to me. We take the picture, we go behind.

    "He says, 'Barack, explain to me this health care debate.'

    "He says, 'We don't understand it. You're trying to make sure everybody has health care and they're putting a Hitler mustache on you -- I don't -- that doesn't make sense to me. Explain that to me.'"


    We're just dumb hick bitter clingy rednecks, in fact to prove that point The Wee Won is making up stories to show us just how fucking stupid I am.

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  106. JCM said...

    ROFLMAO

    Asked who this was, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs would say only "a world leader."

    Yeah, Ear Leader himself.
    HAHAHAHA.

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  107. squatch"

    Gazprom and TURKEY? I'd sure like to know where those fields are because if they're in Northern Iraq (Kurds) they won't let the Turks TOUCH them.

    That Hitler moustache thing is sooooo lame.

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  108. sas,

    The Wee Won, can't argue the plan, he has to insult everyone.

    Alinsky, #12.
    Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it." Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions.

    Obama, we've read your playbook.

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  109. You know they say the world is upside down right now.

    I'd have to agree

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  110. JCM said...

    That is hilarious.
    There were only 20 nations, right? Shouldn't be too hard for a dogged reporter to narrow it down.

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  111. Atilla,

    Most of the Hitler mustache crap is coming from the LaDouchies... who are on the left.

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  112. Looks like turn needs a new place to hang out ...

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  113. CALL FOR CONTACT INFO:

    For any of you who haven't sent your contact info or received any communication from me in the past, please click on my nic/avatar and shoot me an email with your info. We'll be moving shortly and I will be sending out invites to the new place (you will need this invite to enter).

    Hi everyone!

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  114. Clinton on Face the Nation...

    The administration has learned how to "broaden and deepen" sanctions from dealing with North Korea, Clinton said, and would get extra weight from Russia being on board. "Russia has begun to see many more indications that Iran is engaging in threatening behavior," Clinton said.

    ahhh, the Norks have nukes......

    *facepalm*

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  115. TURN! So nice to see you!

    Send me your email info please, so we can pack you up and take you with us when we move.

    Welcome aboard!

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  116. sos:
    Asked who this was, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs would say only "a world leader."

    Well it should be interesting if any of the g-20 leaders will admit to asking that question. If that question was ever asked....

    /time for journalists to earn their keep.

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  117. Gazprom and TURKEY? I'd sure like to know where those fields are because if they're in Northern Iraq (Kurds) they won't let the Turks TOUCH them.

    The article didn't say.
    Only other info was Iraq retaining a 1/4 interest.

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  118. Hi turn, welcome to the Correspondence Committee. :)

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  119. /time for journalists to earn their keep.

    Guess we'll have to send in O'Keefe.

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  120. JCM
    Russia has begun to see many more indications that Iran is engaging in threatening behavior," Clinton said.

    Oh, what crap. Like Russia didn't know.

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  121. Well it should be interesting if any of the g-20 leaders will admit to asking that question. If that question was ever asked....

    I'm betting China or Argentina.

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  122. Thanks you guys, hey JCM, SSOS, PP, PBJ (new nic there PBJ?)

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  123. A warm welcome for turn right here! Hey turn, good to see you.

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  124. Attila, this is the same old turn. You got a new nic?

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  125. Ain't it the truth, Squatch.

    I have ZeroNadaNo confidence anyone in the MFM will go any further

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  126. turn said...

    Ha ha ha, not you too?

    All I can do is laugh at this point.

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  127. Thanks CC, you sound just like realwest. Hey guys, bear with me. I'm trying to get the feel of blogger, never used it before. Great to be here.

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  128. turn said...

    Looks like turn needs a new place to hang out ...
    ________________________________________________
    WOOT!

    Turn in da hizouse!

    How's the puppy?

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  129. Just shortened the nic a little bit turn. So glad to see ya.


    ....still jammin

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  130. turn
    Attila, this is the same old turn. You got a new nic?

    why yes, yes I do. I used to live in a particular corridor of the universe.

    :D

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  131. Hey eschew, Luke is still boobing along! Man do I have a story to tell but don't want to break the rules about disparaging remarks there. It was just a matter of time I suppose ...

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  132. Plane returned to gate at LAX after two or more middle eastern passengers acted suspicously.

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  133. Eschew_obfuscation: Send me email please. Just click my avatar.

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  134. Turn,

    When you see a bunch of letters and numbers as a nic, that'll be Real.

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  135. You'll know it's realwest when you see a big long string of numbers as an ID - for some reason, typepad is refusing to display his screen name and they've given him a serial number looking thing instead. It's quite the running joke around here. : )

    I am just one of the fourteen or so people who make this thing chug along every day - Running Bare is the big dog you really have to watch out for. ; ) (But it's perfectly all right to disagree with anyone here, including him...and that's part of our internal policy. The playing field is absolutely level.)

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  136. oh. dear. no.

    send pink freud an email - and be AMAZED!

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  137. The playing field is absolutely level.)

    Playing field? This is a PLAYING FIELD?

    'scuse me while I get out of this stupid bikini....

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  138. Ok PF, email me and tell me who Atilla is please. Coincidentally real just emailed me asking if I wanted him to get me involved at C2, I told him I was just there posting! ha

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  139. Another part of our policy, I should say, is that we just don't talk about people who aren't here or their chosen homes. It's just that once it's out there, it becomes a topic, and then before you know it, that topic takes over - so even benign comments about it are removed when we see them.

    We aren't doing it to be jerks, but to keep things from "going there".

    Just so everyone knows. : )

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  140. I think Helen Thomas is kinda hot.

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  141. Playing field? This is a PLAYING FIELD?

    'scuse me while I get out of this stupid bikini....


    Wait, don't do that yet, the playing field is for beach volley ball....


    /trying here

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  142. LOL! (HT Medved)

    The maggot turns.

    Ted Rall: It’s increasingly evident that Obama should resign

    Obama is useless. Worse than that, he’s dangerous. Which is why, if he has any patriotism left after the thousands of meetings he has sat through with corporate contributors, blood-sucking lobbyists and corrupt politicians, he ought to step down now — before he drags us further into the abyss.

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  143. Crazy old Desert Sage hasn't changed a bit!

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  144. 'scuse me while I get out of this stupid bikini....

    Ummmmm...are you putting something else on, or just taking the bikini off? (I'm surprised one of the guys didn't ask.)

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  145. Pink Freud said...

    Eschew_obfuscation: Send me email please. Just click my avatar.
    ________________________________________________

    Done....Thanks!

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  146. turn...yep
    :-)


    Sage said...
    I think Helen Thomas is kinda hot.

    You been out in the sun too long.

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  147. DesertSage....

    Compared to what?

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  148. ok CC, that will be the last out of turn on that topic

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  149. turn, please check out my post at 12:12 - we understand wanting to talk with old friends about certain things, but we can't allow it.

    Please don't take offense. It's just what we have to do.

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  150. Wendy said...
    DesertSage....

    Compared to what?


    Absolute zero?

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  151. Oh, now I see your 12:15 - thank you for understanding! So glad to see you!

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  152. are you putting something else on,

    black dress, stilettos and pearls - almost cocktail time!

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  153. Atilla
    I am waaay underdressed (hiding flip flops under desk).

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  154. flip flops? How the hell are you going to trample squatch on the way upstairs to the Pub?

    /Pink and I have to do all the work around here

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  155. turn, that blogger avatar makes your old right turn sign look like you're going around in circles.

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  156. 'scuse me while I get out of this stupid bikini....

    Link ??

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  157. Atilla
    I wear my flips til the first frost!

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  158. Turn used to be known as U-turn. There's also a Mrs. Turn I seem to remember hearing mentioned.

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  159. Sage, I knew you'd finally 'fess up about your Helen Thomas thing. I knew it!

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  160. I'M NOT WEARING ANY PANTS!!!!!!!!!!!

    (ooh. I just tripped. That was embarassing...)

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  161. turn, if you need any help figuring out how to get your groovy avatar up there, just let us know.

    Unless of course you like the "b". ; )

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  162. redstateredneck said...

    turn, that blogger avatar makes your old right turn sign look like you're going around in circles.
    __________________________________________________
    Heh.... and here I thought that avatar was a 'cloverleaf' ;-)

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  163. Bare, please welcome an old friend, "turn"!

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  164. I'll have to work on that red, it is all new to me - the google acount stuff. I've got to get some work done but thanks to everyone for the warm welcome, it's much appreciated!

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  165. I'M NOT WEARING ANY PANTS!!!!!!!!!!!
    Well, we gathered that from your nic!

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  166. Hey I do need help with that avatar stuff, I guess it doesn't grab your google account avatar, just the dumb B

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  167. Welcome to our humble abode, Turn!

    (Also, anyone else think it's cool that the word "abode" is kinda like saying "Adobe" but differently? I think "Adobe Abode" would be a cool band name.

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  168. Hey RB, I actually live in an Adobe Abobe - built in 39 out of the dirt in the backyard. No kidding -

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  169. red
    Well, we gathered that from your nic!

    Yeah, well did ya figure out that he's wearing MY SILK SKIRT INSTEAD!

    /and dayum, he looks better in it that I do....

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  170. ok, I'm not leaving until I get the old avatar up ...

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  171. This is a clothing optional thread?

    Nobody tells me anything!

    ;-)

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  172. Hey RB, I actually live in an Adobe Abobe - built in 39 out of the dirt in the backyard. No kidding

    Cool, I know one of my grandparents went to school in the prairies with class mates that lived in "soddies". Nothing like living in a dirt house. :)

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  173. ok, I'm not leaving until I get the old avatar up ...

    I'll give you a Helen Tomas avatar if you'd like.

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  174. This is a clothing optional thread?

    In your case JCM, please keep them on!
    /

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  175. Hey RB, I actually live in an Adobe Abobe - built in 39 out of the dirt in the backyard. No kidding -

    Awesome :)

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  176. Nothing like living in a dirt house. :)

    Oh. You have teenagers, too??

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  177. turn
    Click on your nic and then look for edit profile on the left side. You can upload your avata.

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