Monday, October 26, 2009

NAIL MEET HEAD: Krauthammer, Barone



Krauthammer: Obama's war against Fox News

Rahm Emanuel once sent a dead fish to a live pollster. Now he's put a horse's head in Roger Ailes' bed.

Not very subtle. And not very smart. Ailes doesn't scare easily. The White House has declared war on Fox News. White House communications director Anita Dunn said that Fox is "opinion journalism masquerading as news." Patting rival networks on the head for their authenticity (read: docility), senior adviser David Axelrod declared Fox "not really a news station." And Chief of Staff Emanuel told (warned?) the other networks not to "be led (by) and following Fox."

Meaning? If Fox runs a story critical of the administration — from exposing White House czar Van Jones as a loony 9/11 "truther" to exhaustively examining the mathematical chicanery and hidden loopholes in proposed health care legislation — the other news organizations should think twice before following the lead. The signal to corporations is equally clear: You might have dealings with a federal behemoth that not only disburses more than $3 trillion every year but is extending its reach ever deeper into private industry — finance, autos, soon health care and energy. Think twice before you run an ad on Fox.

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Michael Barone: O's embarrassment

PRESIDENT Obama, who found time to go on a 24-hour jaunt to Copenhagen on Oct. 2 to seek the 2016 Olympic Games for Chicago, apparently can't find the time for a 24-hour trip to Berlin on Nov. 9 for a celebration of the 20th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall. Well, we all have our priorities, and the president can't be everywhere at once, and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will surely represent America ably in Berlin.

Still, it seemed an odd decision to me -- until I went back and got the speech that candidate Obama delivered on July 24, 2008, to a crowd of 200,000 in the Tiergarten in Berlin. As I reread the text, it struck me that there would be an embarrassing contrast between what Obama said in Berlin 15 months ago and many policies he has been pursuing as president.

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163 comments:

  1. OLT: He can if the media reports his contradictions.

    Aaaaaahahahahaha! Oh, who am I kidding? (Good "morning".)

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  2. So, what happened this morning? I go to bed at 4:30, and Blogspot decides to mess with the stuff I've scheduled. (When am I supposed to sleep, anyway?)

    How are things?

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  3. Hey dopple! Good to see you.

    I'm going to go get a quick look at what's made news since I slept...back in a second.

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  4. Reposting, since it's a bit more relevant to the Krauthammer article:

    Meanwhile, in Argentina, a leftist president is going after opposition media, in order to stifle criticism of economic mismanagement:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703573604574493541233653908.html

    Thank God that sort of thing doesn't happen here!

    /

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  5. Hi, CC! Looks like you, me and OLT have the place to ourselves for a bit.

    If any of you are the praying type, my husband is in a job interview right this minute and could use a quick prayer. Non-religious good thoughts are also welcome.

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  6. Can he be embarrassed?

    Obama is so full of himself that nothing he does will embarrass him.

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  7. /Anyone who thinks that 'Gorebal' warming is real?

    A little child knows better!

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  8. If any of you are the praying type, my husband is in a job interview right this minute and could use a quick prayer. Non-religious good thoughts are also welcome.

    Hope he gets it!!

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  9. Back now.
    All the cable work has been done.
    New drop (cable from the street; needed to make everything else work right)
    Digital box moved to bedroom
    HD DVR downstairs.

    I hope Adam and Jamie blow up something big Wednesday to make all this worthwhile!

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  10. NY Nana said...
    /Anyone who thinks that 'Gorebal' warming is real?

    A little child knows better!


    A BRITISH CHILD! KILL IT!

    /////

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  11. Hi C2ers. Here's more on Axelrod.

    The Human Side of David Axelrod
    Ann Kane at American Thinker

    If it weren't so sad, it would be laughable. The present administration treats broadcast news as its own kind of Facebook page where they can write or say whatever they want on their obedient wall. On Sunday night, Katie Couric of 60 Minutes reported on the Axelrod family's journey with epilepsy. David Axelrod used his twenty-eight year old epileptic daughter, Lauren, to show that he is a caring father. His wife, Susan, has started an organization to help fund research on the disease.

    This is all very noble, until we look at who the advisor to the president really is: a PR man par excellence. No matter what he says, even lovingly about family members, he will always be under suspicion for promoting a brand. That's just the way it is with professional spinners. So, when the going gets tough for him and the White House, the tough create a soft news story.

    How dare he use his daughter's illness to attempt to elicit sympathy from the liberal base, and others? Yet, he wouldn't be worth his salt if he didn't use everyone and everything at his disposal to advance the agenda. How sad for his family that even they have become fair game.

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  12. "Honey, the world would have been a better place if you had never been born. Mummy and Daddy should have had surgeries so that other little children less greedy and evil than you could be born in Africa."

    "Sleep tight. We regret you very much."

    /Lefties are a sad, sad bunch

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  13. More lunacy from Qaddaffy Duck:
    Gaddafi: Palestinian have right to nukes
    Libyan President Col. Muammar Gaddafi told Sky News in an interview aired Monday that Palestinians, Egyptians, Syrians and Saudis all have the right to nuclear weapons.

    "Even the Palestinians should have [nuclear weapons] because their counterparts, or their opponents, have nuclear capabilities," Gaddafi said in the interview. "If we don't want this situation...we'll have to disarm the Israelis from their nuclear weapons capabilities."


    Imagine the work accidents!
    The Pali suicide bombers could hurt Israel without leaving home. What an advance.

    I think Qadaffi is more than a few falafel balls short of a sandwich.

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  14. Dopple, praying hard. I'm taking a quick break at my new job. Seems pretty good so far.

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  15. the speech that candidate Obama delivered on July 24, 2008, to a crowd of 200,000 in the Tiergarten in Berlin

    Was that the same one in which he alluded to how the Berlin Wall came down because "the world came together"?

    Yes, Barack... that's exactly how it happened. "We" "all" agreed on it, and voilá, the Wall came down.

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  16. @midwestgak : Emotional manipulation/blackmail works wonders on some people, backfires big time on others. (I'm very much in the latter category.)

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  17. {Spenser}. What industry are you now in?

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  18. Here's to Mr. Doppelganger! May his fortunes rise like the Arctic seas in Algore's nightmares.

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  19. OLT, "Sleep tight. We regret you very much." Hah.

    I think I may have said that the other night, actually. Sorry, but my twin boys can be such little bitches when they're sick.

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  20. HD DVR downstairs.

    Not only does HD rock for sports (if you like sports), but with the DVR and a little advance planning, you'll
    NEVER HAVE TO WATCH A COMMERCIAL AGAIN.

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  21. I think Qaddafi eated 2 manny camel mushroomz ...

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  22. Hey Gak, back at you. I'm still in software sales, my new company does k-12 classroom management software and corporate IT Mgmnt. Software. Yes, it's as exciting as it sounds :)

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  23. Hang in there, Spenser!

    It looks like a tough year for sick!

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  24. Mummy and Daddy should have had surgeries so that other little children less greedy and evil than you could be born in Africa

    Hush little baby, don't say a word
    you should've been born in the World that's Third
    And if your Mom had had her tubes lasso'd,
    You could have been born in Burkina Faso
    And if your Daddy's condom hadn't snapped,
    you wouldn't be such an awful carbon trap

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  25. Thank you all so much. Spenser, I'm thrilled for you and I hope the new job goes well.

    midwestgak: David Axelrod is one of the slimiest human beings I've ever seen. How many people could make founding a charity look creepy and self-serving?

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  26. Harry Reid is now speaking about healthcare - public option with "opt out" is the way forward.

    Riiiight.

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  27. OldLineTexan

    I have the British version It is waaaay OTT, and not funny!

    BTW, watch out, mister...I am of Anglo-Jewish heritage on my maternal side! ;)

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  28. Al Gore is on Apple's Board of Directors--Apple manufactures NOTHING in America, everything in polluted China!

    These liberals rarely practice what they preach, including using sweatshops to manufacture products while paying peanuts & polluting 'til you puke. Remember China's problems with polluted baby formula, pet food, medicines, and baby toys?

    Jobs, Gore, Soros & other global warming scaremongers just get richer off this hysteria, while they pollute at will.

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  29. Spenser (with an S) said...
    I'm still in software sales, my new company does k-12 classroom management software and corporate IT Mgmnt. Software. Yes, it's as exciting as it sounds :)

    LOL. That industry isn't going away any time soon.

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  30. How many so-called charities are anything but a tax shelter to promote one's own name & friends?

    Now the left wants newspapers to be classified as "non-profits" so they can be tax exempt, receive your tax dollars to keep them afloat, and still push the left's agendas that regular people don't want to buy.

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  31. doppelganglander

    He has my prayers! I hope that the new job he finds will be better than the one he lost.

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  32. Obama is now speaking to US servicemen and women.

    He says they are our most precious resource. If only he believed it.

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  33. President Obama says he has "no greater honor" than serving as our military's Commander in Chief; Pres. Obama also honored the 14 dead in today's helicopter crashes in Afghanistan.

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  34. Now the left wants newspapers to be classified as "non-profits" so they can be tax exempt, receive your tax dollars to keep them afloat, and still push the left's agendas that regular people don't want to buy.

    But only left leaning newspapers. (Wait, are there any other kind?)
    Government newspapers can be like government electronic media: NPR, PBS, BBC, CBC...

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  35. Hi Alegrias. I haven't seen you before. When did you get here?

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  36. Midwest gak,

    I've been here, just not often--am spending many hours volunteering here in Northern Virginia to elect as Governor Bob McDonnell the 20 year Army veteran and former Attorney General of Virginia plus the whole GOP ticket.

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  37. How many so-called charities are anything but a tax shelter to promote one's own name & friends?

    And one's agenda, using tax-free money.

    Plus, even the charitable funds that were established by folks with a non-leftist viewpoint have been slowly subverted by leftist infiltration of their boards of directors. Ex: the John T. & Kathryn D. MacArthur Fund. They were as conservative as you can get. Now their money funds NPR.

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  38. Occasional Reader said...
    "And if your Daddy's condom hadn't snapped,
    you wouldn't be such an awful carbon trap"

    LOL!

    Seriously, though, these wonderful humanitarians who want population control just want it for everyone else. Lead by example is all I have to say.

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  39. NY Nana: Thanks. It would be a better job but we would have to move at the end of the school year (after our daughter graduates). In this economy, you do what you have to do.

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  40. Occasional Reader said...

    Thank yew, thank yew.
    What a Treemendous pun.

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  41. doppelganglander said...

    What? You mean that you wouldn't stay put with industry dying all around you and queue up for Obama money?

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  42. I congratulated the White House Correspondents Association last week for its gumption standing up to the Obama Treasury attempt to ban Fox from participating in the Ken Feinberg interview by the White House pool of reporters which Fox helps fund~

    The person who answered the phone said they'd had an avalanche of calls thanking them for standing up to Obama's Halderman & Ehrlichman.

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  43. Alegrias, didn't you hear? That was a hoax and never happened according to some blog...
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  44. I congratulated the White House Correspondents Association last week for its gumption standing up to the Obama Treasury attempt to ban Fox from participating

    Good for you Alegrias, oh and howdy. BernieGoldberg had a different take on this. At first he was pleased and then he was dubious the other members of the association would complain if they were each individually granted an interview yet FOX was not.

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  45. doppelganglander

    It would be a better job but we would have to move at the end of the school year (after our daughter graduates). In this economy, you do what you have to do.

    Ouch! I remember some years back when my cousin was in the same situation. After much consideration, she and her daughter stayed with family, snd her husband rented a small apartment for 6 months, and in the meanwhile, he would look for housing on weekends, etc. When her husband found a few places that would be fine, he sent her photos, etc., and she went to FL to look with him on a weekend. Luckily he had made good choices, and they agreed on a house. She had to make a few more trips from NJ to help with all the paper work, but her daughter stayed with the relatives in NJ.

    As soon as she graduated, they moved to FL, and are still there. But that was quite a few years back.

    At any rate, the very best of luck!

    BBL....

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  46. doppel, wishing Mr. doppel good luck on that new job. jeeze, too bad you would have to move.

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  47. Spenser (with an S) said...
    Alegrias, didn't you hear? That was a hoax and never happened according to some blog...
    /


    Are you kidding me? Really?

    /holy horseshit, Batman

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  48. OLT--I think you mean "Wholly horseshit..."

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  49. What else didn't really happen over the last month? I have really been out of touch.

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  50. OldLineTexan said...

    What else didn't really happen over the last month? I have really been out of touch.

    The "Missing Link" fossil is 100% real, Rush Limbaugh said some really racist things 10 years ago, some kid disappeared in a hot air balloon, and H1N1 is the biggest epidemic since the Black Death.
    /

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  51. Fox-owned Wall Street Journal's readership is up, compared with all the other papers going down!

    Always liked that paper's writing, analysis, superior patriotic unapologetic defense of our country's freedoms.

    Wall Street Journal blog commenters are also a smart crowd.

    Love that publication & its uniquely American love of free people & free markets, subject to our elected government of course.

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  52. Beer Drinking Swine Flu denier! How do you like that government-controlled production of vaccines? They don't have enough product in the right places at the right time...what a nightmare. It'll come down to rationing.

    If the H1N1 scare is any indication of how they'll handle ALL medical care when bureaucrats control it, fuhgeddaboudit.

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  53. {BDVM} Hi guy!! And that's funny, lol. May I add that Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae are no longer issuing loans to people who cannot pay them back? Oh, wait a minute. . . .

    btw, who named these financial institutions?

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  54. Algerias, understand that government run health care is a way to cut down on our carbon footprint, by letting a lot of us die.
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  55. On naming financial institutions.
    There's a private bank in the area that adverstises on the radio. It is something like Van Lew Private Bank.
    I hear the name and think
    "Flush your money down the loo [lew]"; probably not the association they want.

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  56. Oh man, this is funny:

    Anchors sink on 'Jeopardy'

    CNN should consider banning its anchors from appearing on "Celebrity Jeopardy" after the humiliating defeats of Wolf Blitzer and Soledad O'Brien. Wolf was blitzed last month, coming in last with minus-$4,600, behind comic Andy Richter, a past winner who racked up $68,000 for charity. "Desperate Housewives" star Dana Delany came in second. This month, it was O'Brien's turn against NBA legend Kareem Abdul Jabbar and Michael McKean, of "Spinal Tap," "Laverne & Shirley" and "Saturday Night Live." McKean, a previous winner, ended with $24,800, followed by Abdul Jabbar with $8,800 and O'Brien with $6,200. A CNN insider defended the journalists: "They are reporters, not trivia experts. And the buzzer is complicated. It's not activated until Alex [Trebek] finishes the last syllable of the question. If you hit the button too soon, nothing happens."

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  57. LOL Kosh! Thanks for the chuckle.

    How about Water Closet National Bank? heh

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  58. Russkilitlover, we failed out of reeducation camp. We still believe it's up to us to make our own way in life.

    NY Nana, the new job is only 2 1/2 hours away so we would see each other every weekend. He's taken out of town contracts before where he was gone for 4-6 months with only occasional visits. Best case scenario, he works for this company for 2 or 3 years and we can come back to Atlanta.

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  59. "Black Death"

    That is so racist!

    /

    /everybody knows George "Chimperor" Boooooosh is the real Black Death

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  60. Hey, if CNN anchors aren't allowed to jump to conclusions based on a sound bite, they got NOTHIN'!

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  61. I keep mah money at Fred's Bank.

    Locally owned and operated for over twenty-five minutes.

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  62. dopple, I'm praying! (Please let us know what happens...unless you did already and missed it. I was gone for a minute.)

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  63. You know who else kills black people?

    BRITISH BABIES!

    AIEEEEEEEEEE!

    RUN!

    /

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  64. OldLineTexan said...

    "Black Death"

    That is so racist!


    Well, if I called it the Bubonic Plague, I'd probably just be starting a boob & pun thread.

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  65. Thanks, BDVM, I feel better about my coma now!

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  66. Alegrias said...

    I agree! I love the WSJ and have for many years. The only issue I have been opposed to them on is the Illegal Immigration. They have been strong (business oriented) proponents to a Reagan style amnesty.

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  67. No, some Lefty would want to "Save the Buboes".

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  68. Kosh's Shadow: That's a good one. We have a local bank called Fifth Third National Bank. Mr. Doppel insists on calling it 1 2/3 Bank because he prefers mixed numbers, properly reduced, versus improper fractions.

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  69. OLT, you also missed the fact that Rush, despite speaking with tongue firmly in cheek saying "I don't know if this is real, but based on what I know of him it probably is because that's how the media treated my about the NFL-racism stuff", was completely taken in hard by the commie term paper scandal. He fell hard and then didn't even see the irony of what he was saying even though he told 20M people that he did see the irony. Oh, stupid Rush.
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  70. Because the Reagan Amnesty was so successful in cutting illegal immigration, crime, drug smuggling, etc.

    /

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  71. OldLineTexan said...

    No, some Lefty would want to "Save the Buboes".

    I spent the weekend walking to save the boobies, but I think that's something we can all agree on.

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  72. Spenser, thanks. I know, thanks to Al Franken and Mikey al-Moore, that Rush is a big fat idiot.

    /

    I mean, a crappy comedian and a walking cesspool of lies would never lie to ME.

    /

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  73. OLT, you appear to be an expert on what qualifies as racism in today's climate (LOL) so I'll ask you (but I'm interested in hearing all opinions about this):

    What makes the Obama/Joker image "racist"?

    I just don't get it. I have NO idea why that one is any more offensive done to Obama than it was when it was done to President Bush.

    Can anyone help me understand that? Pleeeeease?

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  74. What makes the Obama/Joker image "racist"?

    Why, that's easy. It's the traditional, pejorative stereotype of African-Americans as, um... "Batman" archvillains.

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  75. How do you like that government-controlled production of vaccines?

    Production was by private companies, and went off on schedule. Government is in charge of distribution, and that's where things have gotten screwed up - no surprise there.

    Some jackass Dem. congresswoman was on Fox this am defending government run medical care. She was using the VA and Tricare as examples. She must think those are good examples - living in a liberal fantasyland means never having to say you're sorry.

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  76. C² don't you know that any criticism of the One is racist?
    I mean, the White House says so.

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  77. Just recall the invective that was hurled at the time against Harriet "Catwoman" Tubman.

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  78. CC, I could make a joke but the truth is, I have no earthly idea. The joker was not black or played by a black man on any of the Batman tv or movies that I remember, so that's not it. It may be the fact that it kind of could be "black-face" like Al Jolson but that seems a reach. Whatever the reason, it pales (oops) in comparison to any number of Bush protest signs we've all seen and the world yawned.

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  79. In fact, the "Jim Crow Laws" were originally known as the "Mr. Freeze Laws". Little-known fact.

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  80. CC - racism is like the American economy. As long as people believe they exist, they have power.

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  81. Now, if you want a racist Batman villain, try the Penguin. He was both black and white. And feathered.
    They even had a white guy play him, when clearly, most penguins are mostly black.

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  82. Corre∫pondence Committee said...

    Sheesh CC, I'll explain this one more time m'kay?

    The sign is racist because liberals have access to secret truths about the human condition and therefore are always correct in their judgements.

    Got it?

    ;)

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  83. CC - racism is like the American economy. As long as people believe they exist

    Now, gak, I do have to say... both those things DO, very much, exist.

    Racism exists (and is not confined to any one race or ethnicity). But that doesn't excuse, of course, hysterical and/or cynical accusations of "racism" done for political or personal reasons.

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  84. Can anyone help me understand that? Pleeeeease?

    Now, see here missie, the Left knows the intent of all critics of Obama better than you, and that's all that matters.

    Recent lefty discussion :

    L - You can criticize Obama

    Squatch - I think he's a socialist

    L- Racist !!

    Squatch - I thought you said I could criticize him ?

    L - You can.

    Squatch - (Kicks L in the gonads)

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  85. Some jackass Dem. congresswoman

    But I repeat myself.

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  86. Why, that's easy. It's the traditional, pejorative stereotype of African-Americans as, um... "Batman" archvillains.

    Putting my geek hat on (hell, it's never off) & trying to think of any comic villains, not just Batman villains, who are Black. The only one I can think of is Tombstone, a Spider-Man villain, and he was albino!

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  87. Why, racism is anything *they* want it to be.

    /*they* = the usual cast of characters that show up on TV to make a buck off someone else's purported (or real) racism

    /real victims of racism don't typically get squat/diddly

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  88. And Julie Newmar's "Catwoman" is clearly an example of outright homophobia.

    I say this, because she was one of the first women I saw on television who made me realize, "yep, I'm straight, alright" (although I didn't put it in quite those terms at the time).

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  89. Kosh's Shadow said...
    Now, if you want a racist Batman villain, try the Penguin. He was both black and white. And feathered.
    They even had a white guy play him, when clearly, most penguins are mostly black.



    The Penguin was sexist, too, because as Danny DeVito played him he looked like Helen Thomas.

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  90. Prove to me that Danny DeVito and Helen Thomas aren't the same person!

    /A-HA!

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  91. Mr. Freeze was a global warming denier!

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  92. Going further afield in the realm of "fantasy" literature generally, I note that many of the characters in Alice in Wonderland took part in a tea party.

    'nuff said.

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  93. Occasional Reader said...
    Going further afield in the realm of "fantasy" literature generally, I note that many of the characters in Alice in Wonderland took part in a tea party.

    'nuff said.


    "I'm mad as a hatter and I'm not gonna take it anymore!"

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  94. Well, then. We seem to have all shuffled off. To Buffalo. Or, this mortal coil. Or something.

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  95. The reason the "Obama Joker" image is racist is that in Leftworld white is always racist, and blackface is always racist.

    Never mind that blackface is merely the American version of a tradition of masks in theater that goes back to the Greeks and, more recently, the commedia dell'arte. Never mind that the tradition of comic servants speaking the truth, via jest, to their masters goes back, if not also to the Greeks, then at least to the court jesters of the Middle Ages, as well as Shakespeare and Cervantes--and that "black" was the most readily-identifiable "servant mask" in America.

    Forget all that. If blackface is always racist, and white is always racist, then whiteface is racist a fortiori, and all the more so if a black man is depicted in it.

    Poor old Bozo was lucky he died when he did. Today he wouldn't have had a career, but would have been ridden out of town on a rail.

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  96. Occasional Reader said...
    Well, then. We seem to have all shuffled off. To Buffalo. Or, this mortal coil. Or something.


    GASP. You said "shuffle." That's racist.

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  97. No Buzz. Shuffle, as in "shuffle ball, kick..." is not racist, it's homophobic or something.
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  98. I am getting so tired of being critical of 44 and being called a racist. Having spent 23 years in S. Africa I get it almost daily. Now I just say fuck yeah. I just joined the KKK. Shuts them up quickly.

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  99. Blackface can be considered racist given that in many cases a black actor would not have been allowed to have the "black" part in the particular play.

    But the Joker face ("melting" clown makeup) is not racist, and to equate it to blackface is mental masturbation of the first order.

    And if the Joker face was racist applied to Obama because it's like blackface, then it was racist applied to Bush (a white male) and Heath Ledger (a white male). Yet I heard *nothing*.

    The only difference is Obama himself, therefore the only logical conclusion is that any political satire of Obama is racist.

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  100. Beer Drinking Victory Monkey said...
    G'night, racists!
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    "Victory" Monkey?

    Good night you dirty triumphalist.

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  101. Sekrit Kristchuns attempt takeover of Penn State using hidden cross

    I would add the following:
    Not only does it look like a cross, but the phrase "White Out" next to the cross could be used by KKKrs!

    oh, yeah ... ELEVENTY!

    /proof that this is a far-right plot in 3 ... 2 ...
    /proof that the right is faux-outraged over this in 3 ... 2 ...
    /proof that this is racism against Obama in 3 ... 2 ...

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  102. Later, fucker!

    /ah, the good old days

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  103. OldLineTexan said...
    Blackface can be considered racist given that in many cases a black actor would not have been allowed to have the "black" part in the particular play.


    OK, then; Shakespeare's female parts were written to be performed by boys. Does that make the very plays themselves sexist, or does it make casting women in the parts sexist, or is it sexist to play the parts with men in the roles in today's society?

    If it is "racist" not to cast a black person as Othello, is it racist to cast a black person in a role written for a white person? I saw a production of "Come Back, Little Sheba" with S. Epatha Merkerson (who plays, or played, one of the black cops on "Law and Order") in the role of the wife. It was not a role written for a black woman, and a black woman would not have been married to a white man in that time and place and class. Was that racist? Did it do violence to the play?

    Is it "racist" to cast an Italian as Tevye? To cast a Jew as an Italian? Is everyone now only allowed to act in roles to which their ethnicity or gender "entitles" them? It's fucking acting, for G-d's sake--it's supposed> to be pretense. That's what makes it acting.

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  104. Good night you dirty triumphalist.

    Not to mention, who *exactly* is he calling a "monkey"? Hmmm?

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  105. BSM,

    I am on your side, but consider that there were no LAWS preventing an Italian from playing Tevye.

    It's the grain of truth that the snowball of lies is rolled around.

    I've seen pictures of *black* actors in blackface, assumably so they could play the Negroes against the others' white characters.

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  106. OK, then; Shakespeare's female parts

    William Shakespeare had "female parts"?!

    (NTTAWWT)

    /man, the stuff I learn here!

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  107. Occasional Reader said...

    OK, then; Shakespeare's female parts

    William Shakespeare had "female parts"?!

    (NTTAWWT)

    /man, the stuff I learn here!


    LMAO.

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  108. BTW, of course Shakespeare is racist; that's why out children must study authors of color instead of the works of dead white men.

    /must I?

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  109. Is it "racist" to cast an Italian as Tevye? To cast a Jew as an Italian?

    Or a Jew as an American Indian?

    "Schwartzes!"

    http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2087/2509476026_eff1922064.jpg

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  110. The 'Beer Drinking' part, however, is beyond reproach. ;)

    Oh gee, look at the time.

    :::Dashes off to stand at the door of the Liberty Pub to assure a good seat:::

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  111. OLT: There were no laws preventing black actors from playing blacks--only the custom of prejudice. There were laws against miscegenation, and there were theater owners who would not permit blacks and whites to work together, but there were not, as far as I know, actual laws which prevented blacks from working with whites.

    I will point out that there were black minstrel troupes as well as white ones, and that the black minstrels also donned blackface--because blackface was the convention of the genre. The black actors were stepping out of their own skins as much as the white ones were.

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  112. to repeat:

    "I've seen pictures of *black* actors in blackface, assumably so they could play the Negroes against the others' white characters."

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  113. RAAAAAAAAACIST!
    There.... I got it out of my system. I feel oddly better for having said it.

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  114. It's fucking acting, for G-d's sake--it's supposed> to be pretense.

    Buzz, in line with this thought, while I somehow can't imagine you're the type who would have waited in line to see the movie Tropic Thunder, I *do* recommend it if for nothing else than Robert Downey Jr., playing a white Australian actor playing an African-American actor playing an African-American soldier. It was quite cleverly done, and very funny.

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  115. I will point out that there were black minstrel troupes as well as white ones

    This, of course, was during the "Minstrel Period" of American Theater.

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  116. OR: It sounds like "Victor/Victoria" in blackface. Or something.

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  117. Beer Drinking Victory Monkey said...

    Putting my geek hat on (hell, it's never off) & trying to think of any comic villains, not just Batman villains, who are Black. The only one I can think of is Tombstone, a Spider-Man villain, and he was albino!

    What about Harvey Dent? The aptly named Two-Face has been played by Tommy Lee Jones, Aaron Eckhardt, and Billy Dee Williams. In "Batman, The Animated Series," he is drawn as a black man (well, half black, half rotted blue flesh) but is voiced by Richard Moll (Bull from "Night Court") who is white.

    /married to a geek

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  118. Well, here's a site that mentions laws Minstrels

    Of course, minstrel shows were not created by those laws ... the laws came later

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  119. Kosh's Shadow: At the end of the (agonizing) finale of Wonder Bar, "Goin' Up to Heaven on an Old Missouri Mule," Al Jolson--in blackface--sits down at a heavenly shoeshine stand, opens up a Yiddish newspaper, and winks right into the camera at the audience.

    People had a much more complex understanding of ethnic stereotypes seventy years ago.

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  120. It is just odd looking at that Al Jolson clip. To believe that this is what once passed for entertainment is weird. Times have changed indeed.

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  121. Kosh's Shadow said...
    Well, if we're going to be racist, let's watch one of my parents favorite artists.


    This famous performance actually derived from Al Jolson's previous explorations of the Amazon basin, and his encounters with some of the more dangerous tribes therein.

    I'd run a million yards
    to dodge your poison-tipped darts
    my Yano-maaaaammmiiii!



    /recycling this pun from That Other Place

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  122. Occasional Reader said...

    Buzz, in line with this thought, while I somehow can't imagine you're the type who would have waited in line to see the movie Tropic Thunder, I *do* recommend it if for nothing else than Robert Downey Jr., playing a white Australian actor playing an African-American actor playing an African-American soldier. It was quite cleverly done, and very funny.

    It was hysterical! Of course, I feel about RDJ as you do about Adriana Lima, but he really was incredible as the "dude playin' a dude disguised as another dude."

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  123. Ouch!

    "In a word sir, you are not credible. And leaders without credibility really aren't leaders at all."

    Blackfive, clearly that's a racist remark.
    /

    http://www.blackfive.net/main/2009/10/my-open-letter-to-the-president.html

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  124. I'm "going green", OLT. By recycling that pun, I've reduced my punning carbon footprint.

    Pun simply, so that others may simply pun... that's my motto.

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  125. "You dishonor the memories of the fallen and disrespect the families of those who continue to fight on by your continued excuse-making and endless consultation that serves no other purpose than to appear as if you are doing something, while searching in vain for what you perceive to be a better answer."

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  126. OLT: Given that there is a clear ideological bias in the link you provided--the author stating as fact that minstrel shows are "the only theatrical form born out of blind bigotry" makes his pronouncements suspect--I have to question his throwaway line about laws forbidding black and white actors appearing on the same stage.

    It is possible, of course--but the author's inability to see that minstrel shows have origins that go beyond mere race shows that he is neither a subtle thinker nor someone likely to question received orthodoxy.

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  127. BTW, Eddie Cantor--who also performed in blackface--did one of the funniest Jewish ethnic-stereotype skits ever, towards the end of the otherwise largely forgettable "Glorifying the American Girl," where he and the guy who plays Roscoe W. Chandler in "Animal Crackers" are the Jewish proprietors of an Orchard Street suit emporium.

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  128. "If you are unwilling or you are unable to fulfill your role as Commander in Chief, then you should tender your resignation."

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  129. "If you are unwilling or you are unable to fulfill your role as Commander in Chief, then you should tender your resignation."

    Hope-n-Change violence never solved anything, I won.....

    BHO

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  130. Later folks, time to go walk the lab along the American. Yesterday morning was beautiful, steam rising up from the river in the low early morning sun. You can really feel the seasons changing. Stay safe ...

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  131. OR, if you recycle a British pun, does that allow thirty sub-Saharan African puns to be formed?

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  132. rn said...
    "If you are unwilling or you are unable to fulfill your role as Commander in Chief, then you should tender your resignation."


    Right, and then President Biden will assume the reins, and promptly implement his trademark idea of offering Iran a large check, no strings attached... problem(s) solved!

    /

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  133. OldLineTexan said...
    OR, if you recycle a British pun, does that allow thirty sub-Saharan African puns to be formed?


    I like to think that's the case, but at times, I rwanda if it's true.

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  134. Occasional Reader said...
    President Biden

    Now I don't need that hemorrhoid surgery.

    Thanks, buddy.

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  135. Occasional Reader said...
    OldLineTexan said...

    I like to think that's the case, but at times, I rwanda if it's true.


    The question is: Hutu ask? If Dustin Hoffman played a black woman in Tutsi , would it be racist?

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  136. I'd call for a vote as to who had the better Africa pun - OLT or me - but I worry about the integrity of the voting system here, particularly those hanging Chads.

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  137. Hey, OR ... we both Congo to the new thread upstairs.

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  138. JCM - why did you post the earthquake simulation video?

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  139. Well, I'd love to just hang around here Gabon' away about this and that, but I have to take off for now. Later.

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  140. Thanks, you guys - I was in my car for a minute, and I'm not home right now, but when I get there I want to read all your responses. This is probably a decent "Tell Us What You Think" topic.

    Shuffle is racist? ; ) (APPLE makes an iPod Shuffle!)

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  141. iPod Shuffles are made in the People's Factory and are therefore not suspect OR contributing to pollution OR energy consumption.

    OK?

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  142. midwestgak said...
    JCM - why did you post the earthquake simulation video?


    Thought it was kinda cool, in a horrific way.

    The larger story is political.

    The elevated roadway that collapsed the Alaska Way Viaduct, is a WA State political "emergency." In the '04 election on of Gregoire's issues was we need to fix the Viaduct. We had to fix it and fix it now. Despite the "emergency" they just now signed an agreement in principal to a solution. One without funding, without engineering. The the video I believe is a political propaganda piece to scare voters into agreeing to an open end project that will put Boston's Big Dig to shame.

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  143. Official advise to Saudis traveling abroad:

    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1256150050048&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

    Among the instructions issued by the ministry:

    # Do not treat your children harshly or kiss them on the mouth in public places in order to avoid having legal action taken against you on grounds of mistreatment. The family may even lose custody over the child.

    # Avoid talking with children or adolescents over the Internet, inviting them to your house alone, or being alone with them.

    # Observe culture differences and avoid behavior that is customary in Arab culture but is not customary in other cultures, such as kissing other children or cuddling them.

    # If a domestic dispute reaches the security authorities, the one who caused it will be punished, even if the other side backs down from the case, so take care to limit family disputes inside the family framework.

    # Don't carry personal documents belonging to other people, including your wife, in order to avoid being accused of holding someone else's documents and stealing them.

    These are GREAT TIPS! I could not make them up if I tried.

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