
Wrath rains on Chamber of Commerce, insurers, banks
The Obama White House has deliberately placed favored Washington institutions of the Bush years in its crosshairs, a sign of an escalating battle between the Democratic administration and some of the city's pre-eminent power players.
In recent days, the administration has attacked the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the insurance industry for opposing key administration objectives, has criticized the nation's largest banks and financial firms for outsized executive pay, and has tried to delegitimize the Fox News Channel by mocking its objectivity.
"When you're on their side, it's all OK, but if you're not, they rain hell down on you," said R. Bruce Josten, executive vice president of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, bemoaning the administration's bellicose response to differing opinions on health care and financial regulatory reform proposals.
So much for being the most post-partisan president evah.
BONUS via HotAir: Unlike Democrats, Republicans “do what they’re told”
He's kidding, right?
Finally, here's a piece from Michael Barone: Obama Hits Opponents With Chicago Brass Knuckles (H/T: Finally Free)
This is change, all right. Hope? Not so much.
White House attempts to bar FNC from interviewing Obama's Pay Czar:
The Obama Effect™
ReplyDelete44 is really choosing some very poor battles to fight lately.
ReplyDeleteGood for the other networks! (did I just cheer the MSM?!)
ReplyDeleteI watched that FOX video this morning, all I could say was "outrageous"
ReplyDeleteHey Scotti! Yes you did just cheer the MSM, but you know, a stopped clock and all that!
ReplyDeleteObama's administration, as 3 wood observed yesterday, is running this country the way the Chicago Machine is running the City of Chicago.
You're either WITH Obama or your AGAINST Obama. No in between allowed.
"outrageous" - I do know the meaning of that word without the UD...and agree.
ReplyDeleteThe question I have to ask is when is Obama going to start fighting our real enemies? You know the ones that have stated that they want the west to be tossed aside?
ReplyDeletebut it does keep the fact that he won't make a real decision (Afghanistan) on the back burner, now doesn't it?
ReplyDeleteThe MSM still has their heads so far up o's ass they couldn't pull them out if they wanted to.
ReplyDeletePlanet Obama? Come on, this is pretty poor science fiction. What president would act like that?
ReplyDeleteDissent is the highest form of racism!
ReplyDeleteForgot the sarc tag. Was it needed?
ReplyDeletePaladinPhil - WHAT?! Obama's too busy apologizing to the World for the very existence of the United States of America to actually, you know FIGHT anyone!
ReplyDeleteYou, you............militarist you!!!
:)
haha I wonder if it's defined there scottie. I was thinking Cheney rips O a new one and Dowd lashs back with a hit piece on his daughter. Classy.
ReplyDeleteKosh's Shadow said...
ReplyDeletePlanet Obama? Come on, this is pretty poor science fiction.
I think of Planet Obama as being pretty much identical to the planet encountered by James T. Kirk and company in "A Piece of the Action".
PaladinPhil said...
ReplyDeleteThe question I have to ask is when is Obama going to start fighting our real enemies? You know the ones that have stated that they want the west to be tossed aside?
Kosh's Shadow says -
He is fighting those battles, but he's on the side that thinks capitalism should be tossed aside.
Realwest, his overreaching is a sight to behold. Chicago-style only works for pizza.
ReplyDeleteEnemies List.
ReplyDeleteWhere have I heard that before?
The question I have to ask is when is Obama going to start fighting our real enemies?
ReplyDeleteJust as soon as he stops campaigning, which is like ... never. He's going to fuck this thing up in Afghanistan, you wait and see blue. He basing his decision on nothing more than politics, forget about what's best to get the job done.
Obama is post-partisan, but the post in question is a whipping post. And he is a great partisan of it.
ReplyDeleteOccasional Reader said...
ReplyDeleteI think of Planet Obama as being pretty much identical to the planet encountered by James T. Kirk and company in "A Piece of the Action".
Kosh's Shadow says
They're both based on Chicago gangs.
Someone needs to get Rahm Emmanuel interested in Fizzbin.
Where's James T. Kirk?
Someone needs to get Rahm Emmanuel interested in Fizzbin.
ReplyDeleteHeh!
Good Lord, I feel like I'm dyin'
ReplyDeletebuzzsawmonkey said...
ReplyDeleteObama is post-partisan, but the post in question is a whipping post.
Oh, you mean as in whipping slaves?!
RACIST KODE IMAJRY!
You, you............militarist you!!!
ReplyDeleteYou bet your bippy I am. :)
/peace through superior fire power....
But turn - doncha remember that while he was campaigning for the Presidency Obama called Afghanistan, basically, the "good war". Now he's down to we're gonna go after the Al-Qaueda in Afgahnistan, not the Taliban.
ReplyDeleteHe is SUCH AN ASSHOLE. He appoints probably the BEST general in the US Army to fight a counter-insurgency war, has that General make a truly thorough review of the War to date and make recommendations as to how to win it, and then turns to Rahm Emmanule and Plugs Biden and asks them - with their tremendous amount of military experience and says "Hey, what do you guys think, should we do this or only go after Al-Q?"
Turn? You okay?
ReplyDeletePhil, firepower is overrated.
ReplyDeleteYou also have to factor in stopping power!
buzzsawmonkey said...
ReplyDeleteObama is post-partisan, but the post in question is a whipping post. And he is a great partisan of it.
Kosh's Shadow says
And he's tying the taxpayers to the whipping post.
Hi there buzz - how are you doing today?
ReplyDeletescottishbuzzsaw, I think turn was just riffing on the "tied to the whipping post" lyrics.
ReplyDeleteOr... he's dying, right here, on this thread... and will soon type "arrrrgh".
Which is the name of the castle, at which we'll find the Holy Grail, by the way.
Hey, Real--hanging by the thumbs, as usual. You?
ReplyDeleteWe should quit flogging this theme.
ReplyDeletescotti, it was a line from "tied to a whipping post" by the Allman Brothers Band (a stupid reply t buzz's post) I'm just fine sweetie.
ReplyDeleteAh! Thanks, OR.
ReplyDeleteNo "arrrrgh" yet...*fingers crossed*
Phil,
ReplyDeleteBut Obama is fighting the real enemy, the real war of necessity... the war against Fox News. He won't let distractions like Afghanistan take his eye off the ball.
Real,
ReplyDeleteNot only that but in Cheney's speech revealed that the Bush Admin did a comprehensive review of Afghanistan and passed the info to Obama's tranisition team. Obama asked that this be kept quiet. The Plan in March, which many of applauded as staying the course to win in Afghanistan was the Bush plan.
Recently Obama has blamed Bush for Afghanistan, when they in fact signed off on the Bush plan. Now Obama is dithering, he's trying to vote present.
As Truman said, "The Buck Stops Here" Obama can't make the hard decision.
Good to hear, turn...*blushes at ignorance of ABB lyrics*
ReplyDeletebuzzsawmonkey said...
ReplyDeletehanging by the thumbs, as usual.
And that's not working? Don't make us bring in the synchronized-swimming nuns, buzz.
But turn - doncha remember that while he was campaigning for the Presidency Obama called Afghanistan, basically, the "good war". Now he's down to we're gonna go after the Al-Qaueda in Afgahnistan, not the Taliban.
ReplyDeleteHe is SUCH AN ASSHOLE. He appoints probably the BEST general in the US Army to fight a counter-insurgency war, has that General make a truly thorough review of the War to date and make recommendations as to how to win it, and then turns to Rahm Emmanule and Plugs Biden and asks them - with their tremendous amount of military experience and says "Hey, what do you guys think, should we do this or only go after Al-Q?"
That's worth reposting real, so true. Fucking Biden wanted to divide up Iraq too - great military genius huh? Get the villages idiot out the decision making process.
Are we lashing out here?
ReplyDeleteVictor Davis Hanson: The Narcissus-in-Chief
ReplyDeleteJCM said...
ReplyDeleteNot only that but in Cheney's speech revealed that the Bush Admin did a comprehensive review of Afghanistan and passed the info to Obama's tranisition team. Obama asked that this be kept quiet. The Plan in March, which many of applauded as staying the course to win in Afghanistan was the Bush plan.
Kosh's Shadow says-
What good is a Bush plan for winning; they want to blame losing on Bush.
Biden wanted to divide up Iraq too
ReplyDeleteHey, turn, give some credit where it's due: Biden was the intellectual author of that brilliant strategic coup, by which we teamed up with the French and kicked Hizballah out of Lebanon.
Of course, this happened only in his imagination, but still...
And guess who is coordinating the anti-Fox campaign: Media Matters.
ReplyDelete/Where have we seen them quoted as an authoritative source before?
scottie, great song
ReplyDeletehttp://www.songlyrics.com/allman-brothers-band/whipping-post-lyrics/
I read that Media Matters was founded by David Brock.
ReplyDeleteWasn't he the conservative columnist who suddenly came out and then went left in a big way?
turn said...
ReplyDeleteAre we lashing out here?
Only at our new crop of political "leaders".
Well, since buzzsawmonkey doesn't know Allman lyrics, here's my attempt:
ReplyDeleteTaxed to the Whipping Post
I been run down, I been lied to,
I dont know why I let the Democrats make me a fool.
They took all my money, wrecked my health care.
Now they’re screwing all of our goodtime allies,
By pullin’ out of the Afghanistan war.
Sometimes I feel, sometimes I feel,
Like I been taxed to the whipping post,
Taxed to the whipping post,
Taxed to the whipping post,
Good lord, I feel like Im dyin.
My friends tell me, that Ive been such a fool,
And I have to stand by and take it ‘bama, all for votin’ you.
Drown myself in sorrow, and I look at what youve done
But I got nothin’ but change, hope the b ad times don’t stay,
And I cant run.
Sometimes I feel, sometimes I feel,
Like I been taxed to the whipping post,
Taxed to the whipping post,
Taxed to the whipping post,
Good lord, I feel like Im dyin.
Did Biden really claim that OR - kind of like Hillary dodging bullets over in Bosnia?
ReplyDeleteKosh's Shadow says-
ReplyDeleteWhat good is a Bush plan for winning; they want to blame losing on Bush.
That's why they wanted it kept quiet.
Cheney wrecked it all with his speech.
Wasn't he the conservative columnist who suddenly came out and then went left in a big way?
ReplyDeleteYep. "Blinded by the Right", his book.
Say, that road-to-Moonbatscus conversion story reminds me of someone...
turn said...
ReplyDelete"I was thinking Cheney rips O a new one and Dowd lashs back with a hit piece on his daughter. Classy."
Pretty telling, huh? Then again, who even reads Dowd? She's part of that elitist group that thinks they are the voice of the nation or something and is really on seriously read and discussed by a small cadre of peers.
Reminds me of the "giants" of American literature: Oates, Updike, etc. Held aloft on marble pillars but their work is mind numbingly boring.
Now that's just a sad song, turn.
ReplyDeleteOff to lunch...have a great day!
Realwest,
ReplyDeleteAmen, but it's much worse than that. Back in March, Obama gave a speech in which he said,
"Today, I am announcing a comprehensive, new strategy for Afghanistan and Pakistan. This marks the conclusion of a careful policy review that I ordered as soon as I took office. My Administration has heard from our military commanders and diplomats. We have consulted with the Afghan and Pakistani governments; with our partners and NATO allies; and with other donors and international organizations. And we have also worked closely with members of Congress here at home. Now, I'd like to speak clearly and candidly to the American people."
Now, 6 months later Obama is acting like he still hasn't made a decision. He did. Back in March he decided to endorse General Petraeus' COIN strategy. Unfortunately, he then spent the next 6 months reneging on that decision. He wants a "do-over". It clear from his own comments and from his advisers, the WhiteHouse had no idea what they were endorsing back in March. They imagined COIN meant they could do the war on the cheap with fewer troops, not more.
Obama & his staff are incompetent, lying, cowards.
http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/2009/03/27/president-obamas-speech-on-afghanistan-and-pakistan.html
turn said...
ReplyDeleteDid Biden really claim that OR
Yep, in the VP debate last year. This gob-smackingly ahistorical howler was yawned off by the MSM. Surprise, surprise.
Kosh's Shadow: Great lyrics! It's for things like that that I miss the ol' upding button.
ReplyDeleteOnly at our new crop of political "leaders".
ReplyDeleteI would cain them if I were abel.
Obligatory Pelosi with a whip photo here: http://www.blackfive.net/photos/uncategorized/2007/04/03/pelosi_whip.jpg
ReplyDeleteThanks, buzz, and from you, the master of the parody, that means a lot.
ReplyDeleteKenneth said...
ReplyDeleteOBAMA: "Today, I am announcing a comprehensive, new strategy for Afghanistan and Pakistan. This marks the conclusion of a careful policy review that I ordered as soon as I took office.
CHENEY: YOU LIE!
Go Cheney.
Hey JCM - not only is it the Bush plan and therefore by definition must be BAD, but according to some opinion polls, Public Sentiment has turned against the war in Afghanistan.
ReplyDeleteAnd you know,when it comes to HealthCare and the Economy, Obama doesn't mind going against the Public Will. But he can't, JUST CAN'T go against the more radical LEFT wing of his party and actually, ya know, WIN in Afghanistan. And it's the LEFT wing of the Democratic Party (which is, basically, 90% of the Democratic Party) that has caused the Public Will to be against the war.
Does this remind anyone else of Vietnam in that regard?
OR: But at least it showed the foreign-policy knowledge and general gravitas that Biden brought to the ticket.
ReplyDeleteVERY NICE KOSH!
ReplyDelete@buzz: coffee all over my keyboard ;-)
ReplyDeleteA week after 9-11, Joe Biden suggested,
ReplyDelete"How about we give the Iranians $100 million to show them that the US is not at war with the Arab world or whatever?"
Biden sure can pack a whole lot of stupid into one little idea, can't he?
Not bad Kosh, can I make one small suggestion to make the first part run better? Instead of
ReplyDeleteNow they’re screwing all of our goodtime allies,
By pullin’ out of the Afghanistan war.
change it to, "By pullin out of the "only good" war"
/after all that's what the left labelled it
//to my ear it scans better as well, then again, what do I know?
You are my Sunstein
ReplyDeleteMy only Sunstein
You’ll help me to make
Free speech go ‘way
And then your wife will
Help me kick Israel
Which is why I have you on my staff today
--White House vaudeville
Biden sure can pack a whole lot of stupid into one little idea, can't he?
ReplyDeleteIt's easy for him, for the amount of brains he doesn't have it leaves a lot of room for stupid. :)
Taliban strike near nuclear facility in Pakistan's Punjab
ReplyDeleteBy BILL ROGGIO
A Taliban suicide bomber has killed seven people near a nuclear weapons complex in Pakistan's Punjab province.
The suicide bomber detonated outside a security checkpoint near the Kamra Air Weapon Complex in the district of Attock, Geo News reported. Three security personnel and four civilians were killed in the blast, and 12 more were wounded.
The attack is the latest in a string of suicide strikes and military assaults by the Taliban against Pakistan's security forces, the government, and civilians. Today the Taliban assassinated a senior general and his driver near the general's home in Islamabad. Yesterday the Taliban conducted a dual suicide attack at Islamic International University in Islamabad. The Taliban have announced they are at war with the state so long as South Waziristan remains under military siege.
Read more: http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2009/10/taliban_strike_near.php#ixzz0UmMth498
Cheery news!
Biden can drag 'em down with stoopid and beat 'em with experience, that's for sure.
ReplyDeleteAnd you know,when it comes to HealthCare and the Economy, Obama doesn't mind going against the Public Will. But he can't, JUST CAN'T go against the more radical LEFT wing of his party and actually, ya know, WIN in Afghanistan. And it's the LEFT wing of the Democratic Party (which is, basically, 90% of the Democratic Party) that has caused the Public Will to be against the war.
ReplyDeleteDoes this remind anyone else of Vietnam in that regard?
And yet another observation worth reposting. He is basing his decision on nothing more than politics. Sickening
PaladinPhil, I think you're right. I had thought of that but rejected it, but it does scan better and I've changed it in my copy.
ReplyDeleteWell group, we are off to the hospital for my daughter's surgery. I will send an update when I have one.
ReplyDeleteLOL! Buzz, stop that, now I'm hanging by MY thumbs and twirling around in the breeze with laughter!
ReplyDeleteOWWWWW!!
Kenneth, the Taliban and nuclear weapons. What can go wrong. go wrong. go wrong. go wrong...
ReplyDeleteAW,my prayers are with you.
ReplyDeleteWishing the best ArmyWife ...
ReplyDeleteKnowing how Axelrod works, like a cat in a litterbox, what (and how much) was being covered up here?
ReplyDeleteAW (above 9:23am) is correct.
Apparently Dick Cheney's comments must have struck a big target, because we're seeing multiple secondary explosions long after the initial strike and we're seeing the flying monkeys, Axelrod and Rahm in full flight...
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/11/AR2009051101864.html
"We have a new strategy, a new mission and a new ambassador. I believe that new military leadership is also needed," Gates said at a hastily convened Pentagon news conference."
No Mr. Gates, we STILL do NOT have a new strategy and we do NOT have a new mission. We still have the same mission we had on 9/12/2001, only now we don't have the old strategy either.
Not that there's anything wrong with General McChrystal (Stanley Mac is an ass-beater from way back), but there wasn't anything wrong with General McKiernan either. Certainly nothing to justify the pre-mature and uncalled for ending of his military career.
=
The thought that we're sending ThunderThighs Clinton, Gaffermatic Biden, and Rubberlips Kerry out on damage control missions to our longest and closest allies should strike fear in the hearts of many...Americans.
We've gone from being the '72 Dolphins to being the '76 Buccaneers in just one election...
THANKS
VOTERS,
R
I still say part of the problem re Afghanistan is that we still have a "Defense Department."
ReplyDeleteThe War Department knew what business it was in, and it actually won wars. The Defense Department never has won a war, unless you count Grenada and Panama.
Kenneth - "Taliban strike near nuclear facility in Pakistan's Punjab"
ReplyDeleteBut that can't be right! Obama has said we're not at war with the Taliban, just with Al-Quaeda.
So why would the Taliban do that?
I mean, sheesh, c'mon now, Obama is CiC you don't think he knows what he's doing?
Neither do I.
All the best, AW.
ReplyDeleteThoughts are with you ArmyWife.
ReplyDeleteRefuah shelemah, AW.
ReplyDeleteIran appears to fall short of accepting UN-drafted nuke deal
ReplyDeleteThey have a counteroffer in which they keep all their low-enriched uranium, and buy the high-enriched uranium for their research reactor.
Why don't they just come out and say their counteroffer is if the world lets them enrich uranium, they'll only nuke Israel. Until the hudna expires, which is whenever they feel strong enough, or 10 years, whatever is shorter.
Hey wait a minute Buzz - we won in Iraq too!
ReplyDeleteHell that's one of the reasons Obama doesn't want to win in Afghanistan - we can't allow two Islamic democracies started under (shudder) Bush, now can we?!
I joint buzzsaw in wishing you a "Refusenik She-male", too, AW. (Or whatever the heck he said.)
ReplyDeleteWhoa ArmyWife - prayers and best wishes going up for your daughter, you and your family, and the surgeons.
ReplyDeletePlease give us an update as soon as you can.
Realwest: Yes, we won in Iraq, but the government itself has not declared a victory--rather, it is sort of hopping around on one foot trying to figure out how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
ReplyDeletebuzz, on the other hand the Israeli Defense Forces have done pretty well for themselves in the ass-kicking category.
ReplyDeleteFixed the link.
ReplyDeleteIran appears to fall short of accepting UN-drafted nuke deal
They have a counteroffer in which they keep all their low-enriched uranium, and buy the high-enriched uranium for their research reactor.
Why don't they just come out and say their counteroffer is if the world lets them enrich uranium, they'll only nuke Israel. Until the hudna expires, which is whenever they feel strong enough, or 10 years, whatever is shorter.
OR: "Refuah shelemah" = "complete healing" in Hebrew. Standard get-well prayer lingo.
ReplyDeleteI like "Refusenik She-male" better. So there.
ReplyDeleteOR: True, the IDF does not seem quite so mired in euphemism as our own Defense Department. On the other hand, they've not really been given a free hand in any of the recent conflicts to really go and root out the bastards. Look at how they get accused of war crimes for being extra careful to avoid civilian casualties.
ReplyDeleteHey Buzz, yeah but zombie declared that we won in Iraq and I saw those purple fingers raised high twice and I see Obama bringing troops home
ReplyDelete(why they aren't going, in much greater numbers, to Afghanistan is, well, because we might win there, too).
The decline in Barack Obama's popularity since July has been the steepest of any president at the same stage of his first term for more than 50 years.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/6409721/Barack-Obama-sees-worst-poll-rating-drop-in-50-years.html#
Change, I hope.
we can't allow two Islamic democracies started under (shudder) Bush, now can we
ReplyDeleteThat just sparked a scarry thought. What if o's desire to lose is simply to say to his base - see Bush lost a war. The thought of the winning all of the wars Bush started must really tweak the far left.
(Now scottishbuzzsaw and turn have to go look up "she-male" in the Urban Dictionary... sorry, guys!)
ReplyDeleteRealwest--I agree with all that, but I'd really like our government to recognize that we won. I'm funny that way.
ReplyDeleteNot to change the topic TOO much here, but does anyone think that the relatively united MSM front against Obama's barring Fox News from the News Pool signal any possible change in the way the MSM looks at Obama?
ReplyDeleteRealwest said...
ReplyDelete"Taliban strike near nuclear facility in Pakistan's Punjab"
But that can't be right! Obama has said we're not at war with the Taliban, just with Al-Quaeda.
We're at war with Al Qaeda? Who knew? O is focused on the real enemy, FoxNews.
Well buzz I'm afraid you're just SOL on that one; no WAY Obama would declare victory in Iraq.
ReplyDeleteThat would mean that there are times when it IS acceptable to use US Military power.
And Obama can't abide that.
Real... I do hope this was a wake-up call for them. It seems to have triggered at least some faint stirring of conscience.
ReplyDeleteThat one I knew OR, we had and "it" here at work.
ReplyDeleteYeah Kenneth, I know that but see my comment just above yours!
ReplyDeleteRealwest said...
ReplyDelete"That would mean that there are times when it IS acceptable to use US Military power. And Obama can't abide that."
Bingo! Military victories only breed resentment and lead to future conflicts.
O.R. -"... faint stirring of conscience."
ReplyDeleteHEY, let's not get carried away here, shall we? This IS the MSM we're talking about!
No I was thinking more in their own collective sense of survival, not morality or what's right.
Hey turn - "tweak" the Far Left? - it frankly scares the hell outta them.
ReplyDeleteGood afternoon, {all y'all}
ReplyDeleteAfternoon redstate. I think you just opened up a can of worms with your greeting though. :)
ReplyDelete/remember the arguments about y'all vs. all y'all....
"Y'all" is just a redneck misspelling of "youse", anyway.
ReplyDelete/ducks... out to lunch
I think the MSM refused to ban Fox News from the pool because in their minds they are fair and balanced and any banning of Fox from the pool would look like they aren't.
ReplyDeleteP2
ReplyDeleteBelieve me, I'm an expert in y'all (singular) and all y'all (plural}. Youse and youins are terms used by ignert yankees and hillbillies.
Occasional Reader said...
ReplyDelete"Y'all" is just a redneck misspelling of "youse", anyway.
I think that's a matter of local youse-age.
buzz
ReplyDeleteThat was a youseful observation you just made.
Army Wife: best of luck with the surgery.
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, Rasmussen: 73 percent of GOP voters say GOP leadership has lost touch with base.
And When work doesn't pay for the middle class:
"Judith Lederman, a 50-year-old divorcee who lives in Scarsdale, N.Y., is ready to consider jobs paying half the $120,000 she earned as a publicity manager at Lord & Taylor. That's mostly because she's desperate, but it also makes sense when you consider how this country punishes work effort. While the first $60,000 of her income would be lightly taxed, the next $60,000 would be hit with what is in effect a 79% tax rate. Given a choice between a part-time or easy job paying $60,000 and a demanding, stress-ridden job paying $120,000...
How did a middle-class single mom wind up with a 79% marginal tax rate? At $120,000 she would pay $16,500 a year more in federal and state taxes, wouldn't qualify for the five-year $12,000-a-year cut in her mortgage payments she's applying for and would be eligible for $19,000 a year less in need-based college financial aid."
Several more stories like that at the link. My head explodes when I read such stuff.
TAX THE RICH!!
ReplyDelete/"The Rich" = Anyone who has a job
redstate: Thanks, y'all.
ReplyDeleteSo how does Obama's plan to tax the rich work when he forces companies to not pay their executives, and they're not rich any more?
ReplyDeleteBut,but,but .......Nancy Pelosi said elimination of the Bush tax cuts for the middle class wouldn't amount to a tax increase! I heard her say it!
ReplyDeleteSurely that Scarsdale Mom is making a mistake?!
Kosh's Shadow said...
ReplyDeleteSo how does Obama's plan to tax the rich work when he forces companies to not pay their executives, and they're not rich any more?
As long as the State pretends to pay me, I'll pretend to work.
Kosh's Shadow said...
ReplyDeleteSo how does Obama's plan to tax the rich work when he forces companies to not pay their executives, and they're not rich any more?
Old joke: Two cloak-and-suiters are talking business. One says to the other, "I see you're selling suits for $150. How much do they cost you to manufacture?"
"$200," the other replies.
"But...but...how can you do this? You're losing money!" says the first.
"That's OK," says the second. "I make it up in volume."
/"The Rich" = Anyone who has a job
ReplyDeleteAnyone who has a productive non-government job.
FinallyFree -
ReplyDeletea $1000/month cut in her mortgage payments! What are her payments?
And they should discontinue the subsidy if she voluntarily takes a lower paying job. That's her choice, and she should have to get a cheaper house.
Hey Kosh's Shadow - better question - when folks (and you KNOW Obama's redistribution of the wealth scheme won't stop with those executives or TARP banks) stop making "good money" how are they gonna afford those new Iphones and Windows 7 and other expensive items that LOTS of other people get paid to make and sell? The ripple effect of where Obama is headed with this is truly disasterous for this country. And there WILL come a point where he won't be able to get away with blaming Bush.
ReplyDeletebuzzsawmonkey, I don't think the people who wrote the big mortgages to people making $20,000/yr will find the joke funny; they'll find nothing wrong with it.
ReplyDeleteRW, when people can't afford new stuff their carbon footprint will decrease, and the dems want that. And then, the manufacturers will cut back, cutting our CO2 emissions further. See, all part of the plan to be green.
ReplyDelete/////
Bush will be blamed at least through the next Presidential cycle: if draconian measures are imposed, if they do not work, if people are worse off, all will be due to the hole Bush put us in being greater than we realized, necessitating still further actions.
ReplyDeleteWhether the public will wise up before 2012 remains to be seen.
Finally Free - making my head explode too. When you are 'rich' you are not eligible for so many goodies, give-backs, refund, stimulus, college scholarships, you get screwed. Success gets screwed.
ReplyDeleteNow that the Tigers have paid off their mortgage, we have to pay for others.
grrrrrrrrrr
Kosh's Shadow said...
ReplyDeleteSee, all part of the plan to be green.
"It's not easy being green."
Kermit the Frog, Austerity Candidate in 2012!
Anybody listen to Rush today? He had part of Obambi's Columbia thesis on. Pure Marxist crap. And they would only let the reporter read the first 10 pages. What is on page 11?
ReplyDeleteVT: That may have been intended as a "fair use" copyright restriction, though it was probably overindulged in.
ReplyDeleteI hope you're wrong Buzz - I don't think I'm gonna make it to 2012; I want changes in Congress in 2010; the MSM have let people forget (I know this assumes that the MSM understand this) that the Democrats - who pass all the budget bills and approriations -have already controlled Congress for 3 years - and for the last two years of Bush's presidency.
ReplyDeleteReal: I've been wanting to be wrong since about the middle of last year, on a lot of things. So far, I'm disappointed that I haven't been disappointed.
ReplyDeletebuzz, do college papers have copyright restrictions? I remember Michele Obama's was online for the longest itme.
ReplyDeleteI don't know about that Buzz - how many students do you know who copyright their thesis'?
ReplyDeleteOTOH, the only other explanation I can come up with is that Ayers DIDN'T write Obama's thesis and it was SO BORING that Rush was afraid if the reporter read more of it then he'd start losing listeners!
Buzz - "I've been wanting to be wrong since about the middle of last year, on a lot of things. So far, I'm disappointed that I haven't been disappointed."
ReplyDeleteBoy do I hear that!
Hi all, y'all. Happy Birthday!
ReplyDeleteJust a drive by, but wanted to wish Redstateredneck a very HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
ReplyDeleteyou cant hide the news, {red}! hope you are having a good one!
Anybody listen to Rush today?
ReplyDeleteVT, Ive tried at times here at work but can't concentrate on two things at once with his yacking. I have no problems listening to him when I'm driving but between normal work and C2 I can't concentrate on what he's saying for some reason.
Hi beach lover, are you one of red's facebook friends? Hey look at the timing on our posts ...
ReplyDeleteCopyright kicks in automatically when something is "fixed in tangible form" for everything created after 1978. You don't have to actively register it for the copyright to exist. (This is a change from pre-1978 law, where the work went into the public domain if it was published without being registered at the time of publication.)
ReplyDeleteThat means that both Obamas' papers are under copyright. However, if they were not/have not been registered, that copyright is unenforceable until registration has taken place.
Any work that is in copyright and registered can be quoted without permission for the purpose of commentary; that is part of "fair use." So Limbaugh--a commercial rather than non-profit enterprise, who is also under fire from the White House--was probably playing safe to come clearly within fair-use restrictions to avoid any chance of a copyright claim against him.
If Michelle Obama's thesis was online, that may have had to do with the collegiate policies of Princeton, and whether they had placed it there.
Hey turn! Who are y'all wishing a Happy Birthday to..... oh, hi there beachie!!
ReplyDeleteHAPPY BIRTHDAY {RED} and many more!!
*Smooches* and {{{{{{{{red}}}}}}}}}}}}}!!
out to lunch with turnspawn, bbl
ReplyDeleteturn, yes I am and a fellow farmville addict with her as well.
ReplyDelete*sigh*
Don't know if anyone has seen, or posted about this yet:
ReplyDeleteExcerpts from Obama's Columbia Thesis Reveals America's Worst Nightmare is in the Oval Office
thanks, buzz
ReplyDeleteWe may never see the aimless ramblings of the One.
Here is an excerpt of Obama's writing:
ReplyDelete"... the Constitution allows for many things, but what it does not allow is the most revealing. The so-called Founders did not allow for economic freedom. While political freedom is supposedly a cornerstone of the document, the distribution of wealth is not even mentioned. While many believed that the new Constitution gave them liberty, it instead fitted them with the shackles of hypocrisy." - Barack Obama
Hey Bare - was that the stuff that someone was reading on Rush today?
ReplyDeleteThanks, RunningBare
ReplyDeleteBut economic freedom is antithetical to economic equality. I don't think Obama realizes the contradiction. Economic freedom would mean you are free to make as much as you can produce; equality would restrict that freedom.
If you want good grades in any Ivy League program, the best way to get them is to write a piece fawning over Marxism or a variation on that theme. It has been that way for some time. I almost don't blame Obama for excelling in that area. He is a Playa, and they play teh Game, that is the way they roll.
ReplyDeleteHypocrisy is one of our most valuable social assets. It allows us to bare our teeth in smiles to people we would like to dismember slowly.
ReplyDeleteHey Bare - was that the stuff that someone was reading on Rush today?
ReplyDeleteI hope so.
Well y'all it's been great as usual, but I gotta go now.
ReplyDeleteI hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!
'Bye, Real. Take it easy.
ReplyDeleteLater, Real!
ReplyDeleteHypocrisy is one of our most valuable social assets. It allows us to bare our teeth in smiles to people we would like to dismember slowly.
ReplyDeleteAh the little white lies we make to each other is a form of social grease. It allows us to function smoothly in large groups without said large groups degenerating into a blood bath. :)
PP: Exactamundo.
ReplyDeleteThe Sixties were all about "honesty" and "keeping it real"--in other words, doing away with the necessary social hypocrisies which make it possible for society to function. Obama is still mired in the "keeping it real" mindset, as he clearly was when he wrote that paper.
This Could be big..... 48 hour rule however.
ReplyDeleteObama's Columbia thesis excerpt surfaces
I missed this first time around. Brian Lancaster at Jumping in Pools reported on Obama’s college thesis, written when he was at Columbia. The paper was called “Aristocracy Reborn,” and in the first ten pages (which were all that reporter Joe Klein–who wrote about it for Time–was permitted to see), the young Obama wrote:
“… the Constitution allows for many things, but what it does not allow is the most revealing. The so-called Founders did not allow for economic freedom. While political freedom is supposedly a cornerstone of the document, the distribution of wealth is not even mentioned. While many believed that the new Constitution gave them liberty, it instead fitted them with the shackles of hypocrisy.”
That’s quite an indictment, even for an Ivy League undergraduate. I wonder if the prof–and I’d like to know who the prof was–made an appropriate marginal comment, something about historical context, about the Constitution’s revolutionary status in the history of freedom, and about the separation of powers in order to make the creation of any “shackles” as difficult as possible.
The philosphy fits with Obama's Chicago NPR interview where he bemoaned "negative liberties" of the Constitution constaining government.
Later Realwest, see you around later maybe.
ReplyDeleteObama doesn't understand CRAP about our founding.
ReplyDeleteObama doesn't understand CRAP about our founding.
ReplyDelete"So-called founding", to paraphrase Teh Wun.
@PaladinPhil: I believe this is the original quote from "The notebooks of Lazarus Long":
ReplyDelete"Moving parts in rubbing contact require lubrication to avoid excessive wear. Honorifics and formal politeness provide lubrication where people rub together. Often the very young, the untraveled, the naive, the unsophisticated deplore these formalities as "empty," "meaningless," or
"dishonest," and scorn to use them. No matter how "pure" their motives, they thereby throw sand into machinery that does not work too well at best."
Can I call The Wee Won a Marxist yet?
ReplyDeleteFF: Then I did a good paraphrase of it then. That was probably what I was drawing upon when I wrote my post up there. Been a while since I have read those.
ReplyDelete@PaladinPhil: You wouldn't believe how many pithy nuggets of wisdom are buried in Robert Heinlein's writings :-)
ReplyDeleteFrom Obama's these:
ReplyDelete"The so-called Founders did not allow for economic freedom. While political freedom is supposedly a cornerstone of the document, the distribution of wealth is not even mentioned."
Those two sentences are mutually contradictory. Economic redistribution by government is the anti-these of economic freedom.
Obama is a dangerous ideologue. Thanks goodness an inexperienced clown like him will never be given actual power.
JCM said...
ReplyDeleteCan I call The Wee Won a Marxist yet?
You certainly have my permission.
"Shackles of Hypocrisy"
ReplyDeleteDemocracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word, equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.
ReplyDeleteAlexis de Tocqueville
We all declare for liberty; but in using the same word we do not all mean the same thing. With some the word liberty may mean for each man to do as he pleases with himself, and the product of his labor; while with others, the same word may mean for some men to do as they please with other men, and the product of other men's labor. Here are two, not only different, but incompatible things, called by the same name--liberty. And it follows that each of the things is, by the respective parties, called by two different and incompatible names -- liberty and tyranny.
Abraham Lincoln
Be very, very clear. When Obama says, "equality," "freedom," and "liberty" he does not mean the what the founders meant, what we classical liberals mean. He means something entirely different.
By the way, I don't know if anyone has commented on this, but...
ReplyDeleteThe constant reiteration of "so-called" in Obama's thesis echoes the language of Malcolm X and the Nation of Islam. They were big into using "so-called Negroes," "so-called" this and "so-called" that, in their rhetoric. It was like a metatag for NOI thought.
Obama, it would seem, was clearly in thrall to NOI modes of thinking when he wrote the paper, to have adopted this verbal tic as much as he did. His pastor, Jeremiah Wright, is also a former NOI member.
Just thought that was worthy of note, the NOI being famous for its deeply racist and antisemitic views.
"Moving parts in rubbing contact require lubrication to avoid excessive wear. Honorifics and formal politeness provide lubrication where people rub together.
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"There are many who will defend the 'free market.' But who will defend the single mother of four working three jobs. When a system is allowed to be free at the expense of its citizens, then it is tyranny." -BHO
ReplyDeleteRush.....
ReplyDeleteObama Thesis is from a satire blog........
"Good manners are the lubricant of social intercourse." - Winston Churchill
ReplyDeleteKenneth said...
ReplyDelete"There are many who will defend the 'free market.' But who will defend the single mother of four working three jobs. When a system is allowed to be free at the expense of its citizens, then it is tyranny." -BHO
'Scuse me, Mister President, but why did the idiot have four children without a partner?
'Scuse me, Mister President, but why did the idiot have four children without a partner?
ReplyDeleteDaniel Patrick Moynihan was RACIST!
buzzsawmonkey said...
ReplyDeletePersonally, I'd like him to be called on to explain that "so-called Founders" remark. Because its implied dismissiveness and disregard for all that our country was founded on is offensive as hell to me.
Joe Klein was given the first 10 pages of the 44 page thesis and reported on the basis of that excerpt.
ReplyDeleteI had to run an errand and came back here and saw I missed my own birthday party!
ReplyDeleteThanks,{all y'all}
Rush just said that the site that the thesis was on was a parody site. Don't know if it was scrappleface or what.
ReplyDeleteI think Rush just said the site that published the thesis is a parody site. I'm not even sure what you guys are discussing, exactly - I just got here...but I thought I should mention it. He thought it was real at first, but then retracted - I think. I barely have coffee in my system though, so...take it for what it's worth. : )
ReplyDeleteOr I heard that wrong. Dang people at work are making too much noise!
ReplyDeleteOh, hi redstate - I heard it too. It's not scrappleface, but something like it, he said.
ReplyDeleteI think. : )
JCM said...
ReplyDelete'Scuse me, Mister President, but why did the idiot have four children without a partner?
In fact, it's not idiotic at all. A baby mama with 4 children by 4 different fathers is entitled to a windfall of child support and welfare payments. While she is unlikely to see consistent child support cheques, the gov't will keep on paying, so long as she does not do anything stupid like getting married to one of the fathers. Welfare imposes an economic disincentive to two parent families.
48 hour rule on the thesis.
ReplyDeleteIt sounds like it was pretty believable though. (I haven't seen it yet.)
ReplyDeleteKenneth said...
ReplyDelete"There are many who will defend the 'free market.' But who will defend the single mother of four working three jobs. When a system is allowed to be free at the expense of its citizens, then it is tyranny." -BHO
Please tell me that's a made-up quote...
Whether this excerpt is satire or not, I still believe that the reason we have never seen Obama's transcripts is that he never took anything of substance. i.e., that all of his coursework was in the "hate sciences", "Marxist theology", "social justice theories", etc. This would go a long way toward explaining why he apparently has no knowledge of history and no geopolitical perspective.
ReplyDeleteHi C² folks!
ReplyDeleteA happy birthday to you {{{{red}}}} !!!
SotD,
ReplyDeleteObama was at Columbia at the same time as Cloward and Piven. Those two invented the "crisis strategy" Obama has used for Porkulus and Health care, they also gave us Motor Voter.
I think Obama's transcripts would show a lot of time with those two.
Corre∫pondence Committee said...
ReplyDeleteIt sounds like it was pretty believable though. (I haven't seen it yet.)
It fits with his statements in the Chicago radio interview.
JCM: Trying to account for the Clowardice in his administration?
ReplyDeleteOkay, looks like 48 Hour Rule is in effect, BIG TIME, for Obama's "so-called" thesis?
ReplyDeleteThanks, {callahan}! I've got birthday cookies here on my desk. Wish I could share them with all of you.
ReplyDeleteOh, Happy B-Day Redstateredneck
ReplyDeleteThanks, VT.
ReplyDeleteMany are so-called, few are so chosen.
ReplyDeleteAnd now, time for a tall, cool glass of Xochimilko.
ReplyDeleteWhat's the big deal about Obama being influenced by Noel Cloward, anyway? I thought "Blithe Spirit" was quite witty.
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