Saturday, October 31, 2009

C2 Afternoon News


HotAir: Scozzafava quits after Siena poll; Update: Hoffman campaign asking for endorsement?

Nine U.S. banks seized in largest one-day haul

U.S. authorities seized nine failed banks on Friday, the most in a single day since the financial crisis began and the latest stark sign that substantial parts of the nation's banking industry are being crippled by bad loans.

The move brought the total number of failed banks in 2009 to 115 -- their highest annual level since 1992 -- with analysts expecting more to come. Among the lenders seized Friday was Los Angeles-based California National Bank, in what was the fourth-largest U.S. bank failure this year.

Advertising firm suing Alan Grayson

Both sides agree that when Grayson hired North Woods to help promote his campaign last year, he promised them a $20,000 payment – commonly referred to as a win bonus – if he emerged victorious in Florida’s eighth congressional district.

Grayson won the campaign and was elected to his first term in Congress – but never paid North Woods the $20,000 win bonus, both sides acknowledge. More than a year later, North Woods has filed suit against Grayson to collect the bonus, and another $50,000 for breach of contract, since Grayson’s campaign hired another advertising firm late in the campaign, allegedly violating an exclusivity clause in the North Woods contract.

NYT's Zeleny Again Involved in Obama Story Scrub

After Times organ grinder -- er, reporter -- Jeff Zeleny got a hold of the story, most of the harshness went away, as did Baker's original story. All of a sudden, at the same URL, there was no reference to tarnished presidential prestige. A dismissive assertion that the embarrassment "would fade in a news cycle or two" appeared. There was also a mention of Obama's 25-minute meeting with Afghanistan General Stanley McChrystal that was not in the original. The reference to falling poll numbers also disappeared.

Well, the Times has just pulled a similar stunt in its coverage of President Obama's Wednesday night/Thursday morning visit to Dover Air Force Base. Once again, Jeff Zeleny is involved.

Obama names 110 White House visitors (H/T: Running Bare - who points out that 'Malik Shabazz' appears on the list; must be a different Malik Shabazz, not this guy; Jake Tapper says there are 59 people by that name on whitepages.com, so...)

The list released at 4:30 p.m. Friday includes just about 110 names with 481 visits. Those names were among those requested by members of the public so far, for visits during the period from Inauguration Day through July. (That's why we know of visits by the wrong Bill Ayers, the wrong Angela Davis, etc., but we don't know of visits by countless unnamed lobbyists.) Members of the public who used the White House online form to check names did not receive a personal reply indicating whether or not the request was received, or whether the name appeared on the list, so the system provides no feedback. Does the absence of Bill Clinton's name on the list mean that he has not been to the White House, or that the request wasn't received by the White House online system?

A request for the complete records of all visitors from the first months of the administration, filed by msnbc.com, was rejected by the White House, and an appeal is pending. The news organization requested the names of all visitors to the Obama White House beginning with Inauguration Day. Msnbc.com has filed an administrative appeal with the Department of Homeland Security, which oversees the Secret Service.

97 comments:

  1. Hey CC -- what part of Wisconin are you from?

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  2. Hey CC -- what part of Wisconin are you from?



    The part with beer, cheese, bratwurst, and cows.

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  3. Heh...good answer, Bare!

    I'm from very near Wisconsin Dells - central Wisconsin. Are you from Wisconsin, L/S?

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  4. The part with beer, cheese, bratwurst, and cows.


    Well, that narrows it down to about 65,500 square miles ...

    I grew up just across the state line in northern Illinois -- in fact, Mama Winger lives like 15 minutes from my mom's house.

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  5. Well, that narrows it down to about 65,500 square miles ...


    Glad I could help, of course. :p

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  6. As for central Wisconsin, I've been to the Dells. And Little Norway and House on the Rock, though I have missed the Cheese Museum in Fenimore.

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  7. I see your reply now...ever been to Taliesin? It would be a shame to go to The House on the Rock but not Taliesin while you're in the 'hood. : )

    My first real gig was at Devil's Head Lodge in that area, followed by LOTS of playing in the Dells. I used to play guitar and sing lead in a duo, and then a band there. (I played almost everywhere there was to play.)

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  8. We used to go up for the water ski show periodically.

    I've even done the Duck tours at the Dells.

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  9. Here comes Purple Favray!

    /and all your cheese won't stop him

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  10. Glad I could help, of course. :p

    Smartass Czar. : )

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  11. The Dells?

    /didn't God drain that?

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  12. Afternoon all. Watching the Wizard of Oz with the kids. My wife says they're too young for Van Helsing.

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  13. I've even done the Duck tours at the Dells.

    I used to work for them as a strolling, guitar-playing singing minstrel chick. LOL (I love the Ducks! I tried to get Bare on one but he was hell bent on going to the Torture Museum instead.)

    BTW: I met Tommy Barlett once...he looked like Santa Claus, you know. : )

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  14. For the record, Taliesin was named after an old legendary poet in Britain, during the 500s, post-roman period in what is now Wales.

    That Frank Llloyd Wright. Sharp feller.

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  15. Here comes Purple Favray!

    /and all your cheese won't stop him


    Maybe not, but how funny is it that now all of Minnesota thinks he's so great when they hated his guts for sixteen, seventeen years? LOL

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  16. That Frank Llloyd Wright. Sharp feller.

    Don't get me started. : ) (You know how much I love FLW.)

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  17. Hi all.

    Pursuant to a discussion on another site, I have a question.

    Is Mitt Romney what you would consider a "RINO"?

    More of a poll than a question. I already know how I feel and I'm definitely not gonna argue with anyone about their choice. Just wondering what the zeitgeist is.

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  18. Don't get me started.

    Oh, I just thought it was cool. I mena, how many people are familiar with such an obscure poet? Gnome sayin? :)

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  19. Corre∫pondence Pumpkin Committee said...

    Ever been down to Taliesin?

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  20. The only problem with FLW's buildings is that they tend to leak. He had a great eye, but some of his ideas don't work so well in their practical application.

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  21. JCM said...
    Corre∫pondence Pumpkin Committee said...

    Ever been down to Taliesin?


    West I should add....

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  22. Lincolntf, Romney may be somewhat moderate about some things, but he's fiscally conservative and pro-life so I don't think RINO would fit since it means he's only got the R by his name, but none of the beliefs.

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  23. Is Mitt Romney what you would consider a "RINO"?

    Though I'm no expert on him, I don't really consider Mitt a RINO - but I don't consider Giuliani one, either. I'd have no problem voting for either one of them, with only a little hesitation on a couple of issues - but either beats just about any Democrat I could think of.

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  24. @Lucius: Isn't "Falling Water" also known as "Rising Mildew"?

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  25. West I should add....

    I have. I've been to Scottsdale on business a couple of times, and I've visited. You have too, I assume?

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  26. JCM said... Ever been down to Taliesin?

    Wife and I went two years ago. Very cool. The semi-underground theater and all that.
    I bought a tie, she got a set of picture frames.

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  27. The only problem with FLW's buildings is that they tend to leak. He had a great eye, but some of his ideas don't work so well in their practical application.

    If you think about the time period and look at the designs in that context, it's just amazing, his vision. He was so far ahead of his time.

    My dad (who was, like me, a musician - but he worked in graphic design as well) used to drive us over to Spring Green and we'd just hang out and look at the house from the outside...so much history there, too - the fire that murdered all those people - just incredible stuff.

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  28. Scottsdale is worst place on earth....according to South Park, at least. And, the city I reside in, Mesa, AZ, has been voted the most BORING CITY in the USA! Thank you...thank you very much

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  29. Spenser (with an S) said...

    Romney . . . pro-life


    Sure now he is.

    /anyone that can beat Obama gets my vote

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  30. Lot's of FLW building down here. When I was with BankOne (now Chase), my bank was designed by him. On the corner of Camelback Road and 44th Street. Pretty cool.

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  31. I bought a tie, she got a set of picture frames.

    I bought something in there, too, but I can't remember what it was.

    Did you know that the company that manufactures FLW design statues/stone products is out in Maltby? You can buy FLW stuff out there INCREDIBLY cheap. I have the Nakoma/Nakomis statues.

    I was going to buy them for about $500 for the pair, and then I found out they were made here - got them for about $100 instead (Bare got one for me! Thank you Bare!). The design was made for something to do with the Winnebago/Ho-Chunk tribe, which is from the area where I grew up (and where FLW grew up, as well).

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  32. Oh wait - we might have paid more than that, now that I think about it - but you can get the pair for $100 out there now, if you go to their scratch and dent section...but you can't see the flaws on many of them.

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  33. Lot's of FLW building down here. When I was with BankOne (now Chase), my bank was designed by him. On the corner of Camelback Road and 44th Street. Pretty cool.

    Okay, I know where you are then, kinda. : ) That Biltmore Hotel has the blocks that have that FLW flavor (designed by someone else but a disciple of sorts? Is that right?) - I LOVE that place.

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  34. If you all behave, you can watch this!

    No throwing popcorn, etc., please.

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  35. /anyone that can beat Obama gets my vote

    Ditto that, and bold it.

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  36. Oh, oops - I conflated two replies - JCM will know where Maltby is, but he's probably the only one besides Bare who will have a clue about that.

    Sorry! LOL

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  37. The AZ Biltmore was designed by a contemporary of FLW. But, Wright was in on the early design and helped with the interior and a few of his sculptures adorn the outside as well. There are a few churchs, commercial buildings and homes designed by him here as well. He was a total snowbird in his later years and spent many winters down here in the warm AZ sunshine.

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  38. Damn, teh crazy over this Hoffmman thing is strong.

    /sucks to pick and hold losers I guess

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  39. Three cheers for massive cable channel overkill! Just realized I can watch BC play against Central Michigan (I'm in North Carolina).
    Channel 144, where have you been all my life?

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  40. Lincolntf said...

    Three cheers for massive cable channel overkill! Just realized I can watch BC play against Central Michigan (I'm in North Carolina).
    Channel 144, where have you been all my life?

    Yeah, but can you watch the Phillies?

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  41. Corre∫pondence Pumpkin Committee said...

    Hey, outsidephilly - good to see you.


    Back at you, Corre∫pondence Pumpkin Committee!
    . . . , how 'bout those, phils?

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  42. Damn, teh crazy over this Hoffmman thing is strong.

    I've not been following the whole thing closely, but isn't Scozzafava quite liberal on more than just abortion and gay marriage? People make it sound like those are the only reasons the right didn't support her. I thought it was more than that.

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  43. Are you all jazzed for the home games, outsidephilly?

    I wonder if the fans will dress up as Yankees for Halloween. ; )

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  44. Corre∫pondence Pumpkin Committee said...

    She supports the stimulus, card check, and cap & trade.

    /full stop

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  45. CC, yes she was. I see some people on other blogs are even pulling James Dobson into this. That always mystifies me since he is not a wild-eyed theocrat at all.

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  46. Corre∫pondence Pumpkin Committee said...
    Are you all jazzed for the home games, outsidephilly?
    I wonder if the fans will dress up as Yankees for Halloween. ; )


    Oh, tonight's game will be lively, that's for sure!

    I, so hope SEPTA decides to strike . . . , shutting down the transit system would just add to the razzle and dazzle of the city!

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  47. She supports the stimulus, card check, and cap & trade.

    And Obamacare.

    /on noes, tey eated ma pet RINO!

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  48. outsidephilly said...

    I can, and I'm rooting for the Phils. Hoping that Pedro gets another shot at the Yanks and mows them down.

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  49. She supports the stimulus, card check, and cap & trade.

    /full stop

    October 31, 2009 12:52 PM


    Spenser (with an S) said...
    CC, yes she was. I see some people on other blogs are even pulling James Dobson into this. That always mystifies me since he is not a wild-eyed theocrat at all.


    There's some dishonesty out there. I don't know if it's intentional and I'm not prepared to say that it is, but...there's dishonesty.

    It doesn't sound like even very moderate Republicans should have been expected to swallow this one.

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  50. And Obamacare.

    /on noes, tey eated ma pet RINO!


    Oh for pete's sake. Seriously? Was there an issue she wasn't with the Democrats on?

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  51. I never got into sports myself.

    I think it's because, early on, my whole exposure to sports was through sports fans like the one in this video.

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  52. Lincolntf said...
    I can, and I'm rooting for the Phils. Hoping that Pedro gets another shot at the Yanks and mows them down.


    You can really feel all the excitement in the air - no doubt, kids will be off the streets by 7:57p.m.
    Pedro is a humble, TALENTED man!

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  53. Corre∫pondence Pumpkin Committee said...

    Oh for pete's sake. Seriously? Was there an issue she wasn't with the Democrats on?


    /she had the NRA endorsement, that's about it

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  54. I think it's because, early on, my whole exposure to sports was through sports fans like the one in this video.

    I have a Bears fan friend like that!! I avoid him from September to January. LOL

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  55. Pumpkin Pi Guy said... I never got into sports myself.


    I'm not really into sports, except, most of the Phillies team players are FINE looking testosterone specimens! Its fun to watch a good looking guy, or two . . . .

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  56. CC, the difference between her and Obama was as thin as Barney Frank's character... as thin as Nancy Pelosi's intelligence.

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  57. /she had the NRA endorsement, that's about it

    Some people are making it sound like you had to be an extreme right-wing crazy loon not to support her. Sheesh.

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  58. Pedro is a humble, TALENTED man!


    NOT WHEN GRADY FUCKING LITTLE LEAVES HIM IN TOO LONG!!!!! AAAAAAAGGGGH!!!!

    Ahem. Sorry.

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  59. Its fun to watch a good looking guy, or two . . . .

    WHOA. T.M.I.

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  60. Some people are making it sound like you had to be an extreme right-wing crazy loon not to support her. Sheesh.

    Anyoen to the right of Obama is now an extreme right-wing crazy. Didn't you know that?

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  61. Spenser (with an S) said...CC, the difference between her and Obama was as thin as Barney Frank's character... as thin as Nancy Pelosi's intelligence.


    Speaking of Nancy Pelosi:

    Last Tuesday, President Obama was carrying a baby piglet under each arm as he got off the helicopter in front of the White House.


    The squared away Marine guard snaps to attention, salutes and says: "Nice pigs, sir."


    The President replies: "These are not pigs. These are authentic Arkansas Razorback Hogs. I got one for Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and I got one for Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi."


    The squared away Marine again snaps to attention, salutes and says, "Excellent trade, sir.

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  62. CC, the difference between her and Obama was as thin as Barney Frank's character... as thin as Nancy Pelosi's intelligence.

    You know, I understand the reality that certain types of Republicans don't stand much of a chance in certain areas of the country, and you have to be a somewhat flexible - but it really sounds like she was essentially a Democrat, and not a particularly conservative one. There's a time when merely having the seat just becomes kind of pointless, I think.

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  63. The squared away Marine again snaps to attention, salutes and says, "Excellent trade, sir.

    Heh.

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  64. "Anyoen to the right of Obama is now an extreme right-wing crazy. Didn't you know that?"

    And, their concern for us is so touching since all we're doing is banishing ourselves from national elections for the next 50 years.

    /or maybe just until Tues.

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  65. Anyone to the right of Obama is now an extreme right-wing crazy. Didn't you know that?

    I'm getting that impression. Gets old, huh?

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  66. You know, I understand the reality that certain types of Republicans don't stand much of a chance in certain areas of the country, and you have to be a somewhat flexible - but it really sounds like she was essentially a Democrat, and not a particularly conservative one. There's a time when merely having the seat just becomes kind of pointless, I think.


    The point was to get that seat out of republican hands - and running a democrat with an 'R' after their name was the only way they thought they could do it... and by THEY I mean the progressive america-haters.

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  67. The point was to get that seat out of republican hands - and running a democrat with an 'R' after their name was the only way they thought they could do it... and by THEY I mean the progressive america-haters.

    Would she have flipped after the election? I don't know the background here.

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  68. And, their concern for us is so touching

    Personally, when I hear preogressives/liberals/RINOs say that they are concerned about the republican party, and it's future, and how the party has strayed away from them, and 'here's what the GOP needs to do to win...' etc... I tnd to have just a little trouble believing in their sincerity. ;)

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  69. Would she have flipped after the election? I don't know the background here.

    Who knows? But the bottom line is, her election would have increased the democrat majority by effectively getting rid of another republican vote.

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  70. Frankly, I amazed she's actually dropping out. I figured the next move would be to stay in the race, and try to throw the election to the liberal democrat.

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  71. well, time to go.
    Only an hour or so before the kiddies start
    ringing the doorbell.

    How many Reese's peanut butter cups can you eat?

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  72. Corre∫pondence Pumpkin Committee said...

    Would she have flipped after the election?


    /and actually become a Republican?

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  73. Who knows? But the bottom line is, her election would have increased the democrat majority by effectively getting rid of another republican vote.

    That part I got - I was wondering if there was a plan there, because I read something about her being close to a Democrat (as in a friendship) and there being something more to all this.

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  74. /and actually become a Republican?

    Heh - good point.

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  75. HERE COMES THE LOOMING THEOCRACY!

    /gee, sure couldn't tell from the last election

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  76. That part I got - I was wondering if there was a plan there, because I read something about her being close to a Democrat (as in a friendship) and there being something more to all this.


    I shall consult the Salmon of Wisdom, and get back to you on that.

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  77. Corre∫pondence Pumpkin Committee said...
    Anyone to the right of Obama is now an extreme right-wing crazy. Didn't you know that?

    I'm getting that impression. Gets old, huh?


    I had a favorite, but now long gone, website that opened up with the following thoughts that might help here:

    You needn't despair!

    Governments take half your earnings, and use them to fund goofy orthodoxies that wage war on you. A welfare orthodoxy, an anti-discrimination orthodoxy, a green orthodoxy, an anti-smoking orthodoxy, a feminist orthodoxy, a gun-control orthodoxy. The list seems endless. It should all be labelled your tax dollars at work.

    If you expose the goofiness of an orthodoxy, everybody seems to become a knucklehead. They tell you that they're not sure, that you can't be sure, that that's just your opinion, that nobody can know anything.

    If you rear up on your hind legs and protest that you're being ruined by these tax eating orthodoxies, everybody seems to become a scold. They tell you to stop being so selfish.

    If you propose to rebel, to pay no more taxes, everybody seems to become a thug. They tell you that the government has prisons for guys like you!

    The world is full of knuckleheads, scolds and thugs!

    If you're still not an optimist, then you just don't understand the situation!

    Here's what we left out:

    The knuckleheads, scolds and thugs were created wholesale by the world's worst ideas.

    The world's worst ideas are helpless against the world's best ideas.

    Ideas grow by individual activism, spreading from those who know them to those who don't.

    The growth of ideas is calculable: it follows a curve called a sigmoid, characterized by a doubling time.

    The speed of that growth can be estimated when ideas have a track record.

    The world's best ideas have been growing with about a 10 year doubling time.

    The world's best ideas are creating a new renaissance.

    As they displace the world's worst ideas, there will be fewer knuckleheads, scolds and thugs!

    You can speed the process by your activism!

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  78. Corre∫pondence Pumpkin Committee said...

    That part I got - I was wondering if there was a plan there, because I read something about her being close to a Democrat


    /like that she runs on the Working Families line and her husband is a hardcore union rep, like that?

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  79. HERE COMES THE LOOMING THEOCRACY!

    /gee, sure couldn't tell from the last election


    Yeah, those pesky, batshit-crazy Christians...they're a serious threat! When did they show up in our country anyway??! //

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  80. When did they show up in our country anyway??!

    Tell me about it.









    ;)

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  81. Have fun tricking and terating, guys and gals. Am catching up on backlogged sleep :-)

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  82. Oh, don't be so narcissistic.

    :(


    ((((((((((((BARE))))))))))))

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