Thursday, October 22, 2009

TELL US WHAT YOU THINK: Obama's "Pay Czar"



Czar to substantially cut pay: Summers

TAXPAYERS FIRST

The administration is also committed to fundamentally reforming pay, starting at the firms that have received multiple government bailouts, Summers said.

"It is important where taxpayers have made a central contribution to make sure that taxpayer interests are being put first rather than those of shareholders and certainly rather than those of incumbent management and that's why Ken Feinberg is involved in reviewing compensation levels at the companies where the TARP has made the most major investments."

Starting?

Pay Czar Feinberg, Not Obama, Behind Decision to Slash Executive Pay

White House pay czar Kenneth Feinberg was the driving force behind the move to order steep pay cuts from bailed-out executives, and did not even seek the president's approval before making his decision.

The Treasury Department is expected to formally announce in the next few days a plan to slash annual salaries by about 90 percent from last year for the 25 highest-paid executives at the seven companies that received the most from the Wall Street bailout. Total compensation for the top executives at the firms would decline, on average, by about 50 percent.

The sweeping decision, though, came from Feinberg and not from President Obama.

If this is so popular with the American people, why isn't Obama himself publicly in the middle of it?

172 comments:

  1. The sweeping decision, though, came from Feinberg and not from President Obama.

    "Present."

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  2. Relax CC, just because some peoples vision is blurry when they forgot to put their spectacles on, there's no need to feel down about that.

    /it's always looked like a brain to me.

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  3. That thing in my avatar? Hot air balloon.

    I thought it was a light bulb.

    And that's a brain, not a boxing glove.

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  4. It is important where taxpayers have made a central contribution to make sure that taxpayer interests are being put first rather than those of shareholders

    The majority of taxpayers are also shareholders.

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  5. Feinberg was behind the 9/11 payments process. I'll explain it if you want an essay, but basically it penalized any family that had saved and invested, and rewarded those families who had spent all their earnings and failed to save anything.

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  6. The sweeping decision, though, came from Feinberg and not from President Obama.

    Bullshit

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  7. Soon, the government will be controlling all pay, except for union pay, and union members will get paid more than their bosses.

    Meanwhile, anything we try to make in this country will be so expensive that no one will be able to afford it.

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  8. A boxing glove---great, let's knock out liberalism. It sucks.

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  9. And that's a brain, not a boxing glove.

    But it has a thumb!

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  10. JamesTKirk said...

    And that's a brain, not a boxing glove.

    Spock's Brain?

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  11. British nuclear expert dies in 40-metre plunge

    Police are investigating after a British nuclear energy expert involved in negotiations with Iran over its nuclear programme fell 40 metres to his death from a UN building in Vienna.

    Gee, I'm stumped. Do they suspect anybody?

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  12. And that's a brain, not a boxing glove.

    BatGuano: But it has a thumb!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU9KBXHIObU

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  13. Heh. Mark Steyn: Dede Scozzafava is not a RINO but a DIABLO (Democrat In All But Label Only).

    (via Jim Treacher)

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  14. Hm. There are, of course, non-crazy arguments in favor of the idea that by accepting the bailouts, the banks in question agreed to a certain amount of government oversight; and that the taxpayers should get paid back first, before lavish bonuses are paid to insiders. Of course, that "starting" word is, ah, worrying.

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  15. Maybe its Bush's brain. After all, it is Red, White, and Blue.
    Obama's brain? Just Red.

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  16. Pi Guy said...

    British nuclear expert dies in 40-metre plunge

    Police are investigating after a British nuclear energy expert involved in negotiations with Iran over its nuclear programme fell 40 metres to his death from a UN building in Vienna.

    Gee, I'm stumped. Do they suspect anybody?

    Kosh's Shadow says:
    They'll blame Israel

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  18. Thanks, P2. : )

    Of course, that "starting" word is, ah, worrying.

    O/R, that's what I thought. He telegraphed something there. It's always a foot in the door with these guys...they have their eyes on far more than this, I'm afraid.

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  19. by accepting the bailouts, the banks in question agreed to a certain amount of government oversight;

    Not unless that was specifically part of the agreement. The government has no more right than you or I to unilaterally throw on additional terms after an agreement is made.

    Of course, that "starting" word is, ah, worrying.

    To say the least.

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  20. Gee, I'm stumped. Do they suspect anybody?

    "...somebody better investigate soon". -Bob Dylan

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  21. Kosh, I totally agree. Between decreased earnings, inflation and sky rocketing prices the standard of living we have grown accustomed to will be no more. It is going to be hard to watch children not have a better lifestyle than their parents.

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  22. Hi, BatGuano!

    Bye, all - I'm off to work!

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  23. He who has the gold makes the rules. Government handouts= government control. Government control= politically and ideologically driven decisions + corruption.

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  24. Not unless that was specifically part of the agreement.

    IIRC, it was.

    (Of course, then you have the question of whether the *individual* in question agreed to this implicit contractual re-write.)

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  25. Soon, the government will be controlling all pay

    Whoa. I really don't think we're going to see that. People wouldn't stand for it, basically; if the Dems proposed it, they'd get hammered at the polls in 2010.

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  26. It is going to be hard to watch children not have a better lifestyle than their parents.

    But we're going to have to lower our standard of living to fight Gorebull warming and save the polar bears.

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  27. Phil are you still here? I checked out your blog entry with the war memorials. Nice photography and very interesting.

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  28. Tent meet camels nose.

    Eventually unless the Marxists are stopped, YOUR pay will be regulated.

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  29. Pay is going to be regulated under the guise of "Equal pay for equal work".

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  30. SOBDog- Interesting what you said about the 9/11 payments. A lot of government programs work like that.
    You want government money to help put your kid through college? DON'T save! No, go ahead and put in a swimming pool and that addition to the house! Don't drive 10 yr old cars! Buy a fleet of brand new Mercedes! Spend, spend, spend! It won't count against you!
    But your chump of a neighbor, the guy who has been socking away spare change for years in a college fund, will be labeled outside the "need" loop. He's rich! He has money!

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  31. Seattle enacts predator safe zones.

    Park gun ban: First sign sighting in West Seattle

    The State AG has told Seattle they do not have the authority to do this.

    2nd Amend Rights groups will sue.

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  32. The liberals think anyone with high pay is both an ATM and an enemy who must be stopped. High-pay could lead to wealth, which is a threat to the liberal elite.

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  33. I think the govt. will control pay in round about ways. Maybe by making adjustments to the income tax law and means testing benefits for health insurance and retirement accounts etc. However they do it, it will not be obvious but the result will be less take home pay.

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  34. Thanks snowcrash. Like I said in the post there are a lot of them here in Toronto. I figured the Soldiers Tower deserved a post all of it's own. I will probably be doing a post or two a week, maybe more until November 11th. And I think I will be doing two posts that day as well.

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  35. wolfie - The college financial aid system is the most pure form of Marxism ever instituted in the US.

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  36. Hi, VioletTiger,

    Don't have as much time as I used too. Good to see you!

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  37. Bullshit

    Everything out of this body politick is bullshit.
    I'd like to ask him if he finds any redeeming value in capitalism at all, besides the ability to use classism and racism during a downturn to try to demolish the whole fucking thing.

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  38. OldLineTexan said...

    The defenestration of Vienna?


    I'm waiting for the Third Defenestration of Prague. It's bound to happen sometime.

    Very popular method of political murder all over eastern Europe and the Balkans. I'm not sure if Austria qualifies or not.

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  39. VioletTiger said...
    The liberals think anyone with high pay is both an ATM and an enemy who must be stopped. High-pay could lead to wealth, which is a threat to the liberal elite.


    It's not wealth that bothers them, with is the result of what the hate most. They don't dare say it aloud, but when you read and understand Gramsci, Marx, Alinsky and the other that inform them it's clear. Then the "code" is broken.

    The hate an independent soverign individual. That person they have no power, no control over.

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  40. I've actually seen the Prague Castle defenstration window! They don't let you lean out of it, though. It is, yes, a long way down.

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  41. Son of the Black Dog said...
    wolfie - The college financial aid system is the most pure form of Marxism ever instituted in the US.


    Does it force you to get good Marx?

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  42. Bye, Everyone. Off to get a haircut.

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  43. Off to get a haircut.

    Don't do it, BG! Let your freak flag fly!

    /

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  44. OR, given the fetish people make of history, I'm surprised they didn't preserve the dung-heap.

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  45. The problem with government programs like student aid is that they can't tell the difference between a family that spent like a drunken sailor, and one that never made enough to save, or had higher medical bills, or other necessities.
    Thus, they give the same consideration to both families that end up with the same amount of savings, irrespective of the path they took to get there.
    I don't have a solution, because any way of telling would be quite intrusive.

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  46. buzz- No, but the colleges themselves require it!

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  47. Dianna--what dung heap? Don't you realize that those papal representatives survived, because angels caught them in mid-air and gently lowered them to the ground?

    /the Vatican version at the time, anyway

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  48. BatGuano said...
    Bye, Everyone. Off to get a haircut.


    Shave and a haircut.
    2 bits!

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  49. Shave and a haircut.
    2 bits!


    Oh, I think they use less data than that.

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  50. While the Calvinists muttered that the Devil looks after his own.

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  51. I'd like to ask him if he finds any redeeming value in capitalism at all, besides the ability to use classism and racism during a downturn to try to demolish the whole fucking thing

    I don't know about demolish, I would say reshape capitalixm such that the dems are kept in power indefinitely is more like it.

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  52. Kosh--- The solution is to get the government out of the system altogether.
    The more govt has been involved, the more tuition rates have climbed. A typical case of govt 'helping,' creating a problem by 'helping,' and then 'helping' to fix the problem. It goes on and on.

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  53. Oh, I think they use less data than that.

    Byte me!

    ;-P

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  54. snowcrash - I think the govt. will control pay in round about ways. Maybe by making adjustments to the income tax law and means testing benefits for health insurance and retirement accounts etc. However they do it, it will not be obvious but the result will be less take home pay.

    No round about it at all. It is already policy, and in a lot more areas than you can count. The tax code is crammed full of them. The people who actually pay for their health care have been carrying those who don't for a long time - it isn't starting with Obamacare. Another example, "universal service fees" for telephone and cable. Another, the requirement, in many liberal dominated cities, that apartment developers build X number of affordable housing units for every Y number of market rate units. The list goes on and on and on ...

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  55. Kosh's Shadow said...
    The problem with government programs like student aid is that they can't tell the difference between a family that spent like a drunken sailor


    And, of course, one of the unintended (?) consequences is that it keeps feeding the college cost inflation treadmill. (If you'll pardon the mixed metaphor.)

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  56. capitalixm

    ha a total typo but perfectly in context

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  57. In one of the UW (Seattle) Libraries they had a school history display. One of the items was a tuition recipt from the late 30's.

    1 quarters tuition?

    $12.50.

    That's a $161.61 in todays dollars. Actually tuition at the UW today?

    $7,934.00

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  58. I don't know about demolish, I would say reshape capitalixm such that the dems are kept in power indefinitely is more like it.

    I'm sticking with demolish then.

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  59. JCM, though, isn't UW a state university, so the difference can be due to subsidies during the time.

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  60. People think the cost of going to Harvard (or similar schools) is $40k per year. Wrong! The cost of going to Harvard is zero dollars per year. Starting from that base of zero, the college exacts a steeply graduated tax on the income and assets of the family. At some point the tax rate is 100 percent on additional assets (maybe only 50 percent on income). Once you reach $40k total tax, they stop. Oh, and the tax on the student is 100 percent.

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  61. JCM- Holy carp. Even worse than I thought.

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  62. And the system is pretty much the same at state schools.

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  63. In the view of Obama's mentors capitalism is "unjust" both "socially" it creates economic stratification, and "economically" there is a bell curve of income in a capitalist society.

    "Justice" demands retification of these inequities.

    They, Obama and crew, are fighting "injustice" in their world view. Anyone standing in their way therefore believes in maintianing the "injustice" of the capitalist system.

    This "injustice" in their world view is the source of all "bad" things, crime to terrorism is caused by this "injustice."

    Solve this "injustice" and all bad things will therefore stop. The only evil in the world is to be in favor of "injustice."

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  64. Son of the Black Dog said...
    And the system is pretty much the same at state schools.

    ************
    My daughter graduated from one of the top private high schools in the tristate region, with a 3.93 /4.0 GPA and could not get a scholarship to her top pick school--because her parents were 'rich'. Scholarships for just being a good student are slowly evaporating. It is all based on income now. Better save it up if you have kids.

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  65. Expert: Iran Buying Time with Shoddy Deal
    Summary:
    Iran could replenish the amount of uranium they'd be sending to Russia in a year, and the deal doesn't make them stop low grade enrichment.
    And this "puts the stamp of approval" on such activity.

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  66. Kosh's Shadow said...
    JCM, though, isn't UW a state university, so the difference can be due to subsidies during the time.


    The subsidized tuition is $2735 a quarter. In the late 30's tuition was flat rate for resident and non.

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  67. SOBDog--- An excellent way to describe ithe situation! But don't forget that the tax rate also depends on how much you add to 'diversity.'

    A girl who graduated HS with my daughter last year got a full ride to Harvard, despite the fact that her father is a VERY wealthy businessman and her mother is a fulltime physician. The reason? Her grandfather was Argentine and she bears a Hispanic surname. That makes her "Hispanic," even though she doesn't speak a word of Spanish and has never set foot in a Spanish-speaking country, AFAIK.

    Without that,BTW, she wouldn't have been admitted, much less subsidized. Her grades and SATs were okay, but no where near Harvard levels.

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  68. VT - Scholarships for just being a good student are slowly evaporating. It is all based on income now.

    Yes, essentially all merit based scholarships have disappeared. Everything is need based now, except at some of the smaller colleges (generally religious based). And if a student gets an outside merit based scholarship, it only reduces the amount of need based financial aid they receive. A shell game.

    Now if you can pass a football, or hit a three-point shot, there's a scholarship for you.

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  69. Can I pass a football? Gee coach, I don't even think I can swallow one.

    Punchline to an old Aggie joke.

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  70. wolfie said...
    SOBDog--- An excellent way to describe ithe situation! But don't forget that the tax rate also depends on how much you add to 'diversity.'

    A girl who graduated HS with my daughter last year got a full ride to Harvard, despite the fact that her father is a VERY wealthy businessman and her mother is a fulltime physician. The reason? Her grandfather was Argentine and she bears a Hispanic surname. That makes her "Hispanic," even though she doesn't speak a word of Spanish and has never set foot in a Spanish-speaking country, AFAIK.

    Without that,BTW, she wouldn't have been admitted, much less subsidized. Her grades and SATs were okay, but no where near Harvard levels.



    That was much more blatant some 20 years ago, when a certain party now in the Oval Office was skating through the halls of higher education.

    People ask why some of us are skeptical of Obama's intellectual achievements in light of his having gone to two flossy educational institutions--Columbia and Harvard Law--and having made law review and a cum laude degree.

    Well, it's because nobody's seen a transcript or a grade, and because he never wrote jack for the law review--and because those of us who were there, Charlie, know damned well that the favoritism granted to "diversity" students in the wake of the Civil Rights Movement at least equaled, if indeed did not exceed, the kind of favoritism which has been doled out to favored football players at many schools for the better part of a century.

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  71. wolfie said...

    I knew we should have changed our last name to Diaz.

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  72. wolfie said...

    SOBDog--- An excellent way to describe ithe situation! But don't forget that the tax rate also depends on how much you add to 'diversity.'

    A girl who graduated HS with my daughter last year got a full ride to Harvard, despite the fact that her father is a VERY wealthy businessman and her mother is a fulltime physician. The reason? Her grandfather was Argentine and she bears a Hispanic surname. That makes her "Hispanic," even though she doesn't speak a word of Spanish and has never set foot in a Spanish-speaking country, AFAIK.

    Without that,BTW, she wouldn't have been admitted, much less subsidized. Her grades and SATs were okay, but no where near Harvard levels.
    _____________________________________________
    Heh.... my white daughter graduated with a 3.5 gpa wrote what was described by admittance personel at Creighton Law School as a remarkable admittance essay and submitted applications to 15 1st and 2nd tier law schools.

    No acceptances.

    One application to a "black" law school .... immediate acceptance. 3.7 gpa after the first year got her a full scholarship for a year and if she maintains that, for the 3rd year.

    Interesting, no?

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  73. heh

    "If you have a German shepherd or similar-sized dog, for example, its (carbon emmision) impact every year is exactly the same as driving a large car around," Brenda Vale said."

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/national/2987821/Save-the-planet-eat-a-dog

    Next Gore will want turn to saddle up the boob and get rid of my SUV.

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  74. Well my relief is here and it's time to go home. I wish the rain had waited at least an hour or so. See you all a little later.

    /*poof*

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  75. Have to comment on that statement turn. these left wing nuts want us to give up everything in order to "Save Gaia". They can all go to hell as far as I am concerned.

    /now I am gone.

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  76. turn - Son, did you go to A&M?

    If I'd gone to A&M I'd have said it was a Univ. of Texas student.

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  77. My older daughter actually got a merit scholarship as well as a scholarship for participating in forensics (speech) at her small, private liberal arts college. The younger one will probably be attending a state university next year that does offer a few merit scholarships, some of which do not require you to be a minority. It's kind of moot, though, because she'll be getting the HOPE scholarship, which covers her tuition and some of her fees. All we have to cover is her room and board.

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  78. They can all go to hell as far as I am concerned.

    I second that motion.
    See ya tomorrow, Phil.

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  79. Dang that "RESET" button worked a little too well...

    Instead of 1993, it rest to 1973.....


    Russia violating treaty, developing missile

    Sen. Jon Kyl, Arizona Republican and No. 2 Republican Senate leader, recently identified a key issue that is likely to complicate the administration's plan: Russia for years has been violating the current Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START), which is set to expire Dec. 5.

    Mr. Kyl said in a Senate floor speech Oct. 19 that Russia's development of a new multiple-warhead RS-24 missile that was tested as recently as May 2007 violates the current treaty.

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  80. eschew- VERY interesting. An option I hadn't thought of and something to keep in mind.
    How does she like where she is? I would GUESS that, outside of the radical set, most students would accept her just fine.

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  81. dopple - the people of Georgia were really smart to earmark that lottery money for the HOPE scholarships. Have they ever broadened them to include full or partial tuition coverage at non-state schools?

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  82. They can all go to hell as far as I am concerned ..

    The implication was if we turned our dogs into what OR calls "emergency protein sources" we could reverse gorbal warming.

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  83. turn said...

    heh

    "If you have a German shepherd or similar-sized dog, for example, its (carbon emmision) impact every year is exactly the same as driving a large car around," Brenda Vale said."


    Kosh's Shadow says
    To say nothing about the methane emissions, especially when they aren't feeling well.

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  84. wolfie said...

    eschew- VERY interesting. An option I hadn't thought of and something to keep in mind.
    How does she like where she is? I would GUESS that, outside of the radical set, most students would accept her just fine.
    ______________________________________________
    The population is about 70% afro-american, 15% hispanic, and 15% white. The students semi-self-segregate, but she has had NO problems that could be considered race based.

    She has mostly male, hispanic friends and loves the school. As a result of her academic performance, the administration is very supportive of her and has made special recommendations for her to a number of firms for internships.

    I suspect she will have no problems finding a position when she graduates.

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  85. Son of the Black Dog: students at in-state private schools do get a smaller HOPE grant (I think it was about $600 a semester).

    The big downside to HOPE is that it's made it extremely difficult for all but the very best students to get into UGA. And by best, I actually mean the ones with the most inflated grades. In some districts, you get a B just for showing up. More than a third of first year HOPE recipients at UGA fail to qualify for the scholarship in their sophomore year. All they need to do is keep a B average, but many of them are so clearly unprepared for college work, they can't even manage that. I suppose the good news is, it's not that hard to transfer in after you've done a year or two at a local school, but it seems like a colossal waste of resources.

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  86. The implication was if we turned our dogs into what OR calls "emergency protein sources" we could reverse gorbal warming.

    The kitchens of my neighbors who had Obama signs in their yards are "emergency protein sources". My friend Mr. Garand and I will pay them a little visit when we run out of food. Oh, and we'll keep the dog just as it is, thank you.

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  87. The "save Gaia!" types are not getting my dogs. Or my cat.

    And I'm not eating them, either. One does not eat Fluffy.

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  88. Pearl Jam, others protest music used in torture

    A coalition of top musicians, including REM and Seattle's Pearl Jam, want to know if their music was used by the U.S. military as part of controversial interrogation methods at the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay.

    The artists have endorsed a series of Freedom of Information Act requests, which are being filed on Thursday, asking the U.S. government to declassify documents that would reveal which artists' work was used on detainees at U.S. prison facilities and military detention centers, including the one at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba.


    So you admit listening to you "music" can be torture?

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  89. And now from the wacky world of a freaked out administration, comes this Gibb rebuttal to Cheney's criticism.

    http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/1009/no_dithering_72c09e61-e372-4ec7-b600-719ace41adbd.html#

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  90. eschew ---- Sounds great! Well worth considering, should one of my kids be in a similar situation down the road.

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  91. ahhh ... the inventor of the M1 son

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  92. dopple - I'd heard that the HOPE scholarships had raised the academic standing of UGA, but I didn't ever hear about the inflated HS grade/sophomore dropout business. It is a shame to waste all those slots.

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  93. @JCM: I thought they primarily used Britney Spears, the Barney soundtrack, and the like?

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  94. JCM said...

    So you admit listening to you "music" can be torture?

    That's hilarious. Now, if I were performing enhanced interrogation techniques, I'd use a combination of mariachi music, Ray Coniff Singers, modern jazz, and a few selections from the Japanese koto.

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  95. turn - and still a damned fine service weapon design.

    I've seen photos of troops in both Iraq and Afghanistan carrying M-14's. Carried one for 2 years in Vietnam and it NEVER jammed. (Unlike some other firearm designs.)

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  96. @JCM: I have an idea: let them use Nancy Pelosi speeches at max volume instead.

    /They'll beg to be waterboarded instead

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  97. It seems to me the conditions in Vietnam must have been just as bad as you could get in regards to keeping a gun from jamming.

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  98. Son of the Black Dog said...

    dopple - I'd heard that the HOPE scholarships had raised the academic standing of UGA, but I didn't ever hear about the inflated HS grade/sophomore dropout business. It is a shame to waste all those slots.

    Yeah, they don't publicize that so much. Not all of those kids drop out; some of them buckle down and regain the scholarship in their junior and senior years.

    OTOH, they do retain a lot of kids who would have gone to the Ivies. The valedictorian of my son's class had something like a 4.9 GPA because he took so many AP courses. He went to UGA, saving his parents enough money that they can probably pay for graduate school.

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  99. OT- You know those itty bitty bags of goldfish crackers than contain only 50 calories worth so you can indulge without getting pudgy? I just ate 6 of them.

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  100. Wolfie, it's like those "low tar/ low nicotine" cigarettes. They didn't satisfy the craving, so people smoked more of them

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  101. I have an idea: let them use Nancy Pelosi speeches at max volume instead.

    FF, did you happen to see Tonya Reiman's body language analysis of Reid putting his arm around Blinky? too funny ...

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  102. Or light beer, you end up drinking more to get the same buzz

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  103. I just ate 6 of them.

    6 Goldfish.... or 6 bags?

    ;-)

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  104. Hi doppel, hey is LOL one of your facbook friends? She showed up as a mutual friend but the dang facebook thingy wouldn't let me send her a "be my friend" request.

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  105. Best of the Web just arrived in my mailbox, and get a load of this:
    "The western Massachusetts university town of Amherst is mulling a resolution urging the Congress to release cleared Guantanamo Bay detainees into the United States and calling for the town to welcome those detainees into the community. . . .
    "The United States has a long history of being a place of refuge and asylum for persecuted people. There's nothing new about this," said Gerry Weiss, one of the two selectmen supporting the resolution. "This is the tradition of the United States." . . .
    In briefing material supplied to the selectmen, the group said the resolution "asks our local community to look beyond the stereotype that all the men at Guantanamo are 'terrorists,' and instead to look at each man as a human being who deserves human rights and a presumption of innocence until proven guilty."

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  106. What do I think? I think y'all are screwed in America for the moment.

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  107. Finally Free said...

    "The United States has a long history of being a place of refuge and asylum for persecuted people. There's nothing new about this," said Gerry Weiss, one of the two selectmen supporting the resolution. "This is the tradition of the United States."


    The stoopid is strong in this one.

    Makes we want to pound my head against the wall to make the pain stop.

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  108. The western Massachusetts university town of Amherst

    Sounds like a college St. Pancake would graduate from.

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  109. @JCM

    That's exactly what I tell my kids to do if they whine that they are bored.

    "Well then-I have an idea-why don't you go bang your head against the wall?"

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  110. turn, I didn't think so, but I checked and I do have a friend request pending that she hasn't accepted yet.

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  111. St. Pancake's alma mater is my neck of the woods, outside of Olympia. Evergreen State College. I will admit to have attended a class there. I got my EMT there in 1978, it was hippy dippy central way back then.

    They had Mumia abu Jamil give the commencement address one year via audio tape.

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  112. Oh, no.

    Another dead kid.

    http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/death-of-fla-girl-169648.html

    Somer Thompson, seven years old. Dead and dumped in a landfill.

    Who does this sort of thing?

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  113. Amherst is home to UMass, and to Amherst College, a real moonbat place.

    I guess there will be another college there, soon, Jihad U. All expenses paid if the mullahs approve.

    And a guaranteed job after graduation. It might not be a long-term job, although it would be a lifetime commitment.

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  114. Has anyone seen the poster named St.Pancake anywhere?

    He/she just disappeared entirely.

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  115. This guy JCM?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumia_Abu-Jamal

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  116. Dianna, sure seems there is a ration of those child killings in Florida. sick mo fo's

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  117. I will admit to have attended a class there.

    SHUN HIM!!!! LOL

    Do they actually grade students at Evergreen? (I know it sounds like a joke, but it's a serious question...isn't there something hinky about the way they do things there in terms of grades?)

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  118. Aha! My daughter nearly went to Amherst College. Well, it was one of the final two choices of the schools she got accepted to. Bless her little heart, she picked the other place because she thought Amherst would be too moonbatty for her.
    Of course, UMass is in Amherst too, so you've got a nice chunk of whackademia there.

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  119. turn, yeah, THAT guy. They had him appear via video, I think.

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  120. Has anyone seen the poster named St.Pancake anywhere?

    No, and I vaguely remember that nic now that you mention it WM.

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  121. CC, wow that is a liberal college. Can hear it now "injustice by the man ..."

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  122. turn said...
    This guy JCM?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumia_Abu-Jamal


    Yep, St. Pancakes alma mater had a cop killer as a graduation speaker.

    Nice eh?

    Couple years ago protestors tried to block military shipments at the Port. That started at Evergreen. They had a riot last year, some student event let out. A campus cop was merely on hand to watch the crowd. That "provoked" them into overturning the cop car a burning it.

    Frakkin' place is waste of tax money and should be shut down.

    Oh, they don't have grades. Student and prof have a meeting to see how they feel about what was achieved.

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  123. Zeke 'Death Panel' Emmanuel went to Amherst.
    But then, so did Calvin Coolidge.

    I have a sneaking suspicion the student body has been going downhill.

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  124. Oh, they don't have grades. Student and prof have a meeting to see how they feel about what was achieved.

    You have to be shitting me ...

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  125. JCM,
    Oh, they don't have grades. Student and prof have a meeting to see how they feel about what was achieved.
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    No shit!

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  126. JCM--- Send the whole school abroad! Permanently. The banlieus of Paris might be appropriate.

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  127. 23 you're in my head again

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  128. wolfie, his wiki says he's a leading opponent of legalized euthanasia. Where did he get the "death panel" tag?

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  129. wolfie said...
    Send the whole school abroad! Permanently. The banlieus of Paris might be appropriate.
    ---

    Ooh, them thugs of the banlieus would love to play with some liberal moonbats.
    *evil grin*

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  130. Hi turn,

    sooo sooorry! ;-) How are you today?

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  131. Evaluation Process

    At Evergreen, a student's learning and academic progress are assessed in narrative evaluations rather than grades. Students will receive multiple evaluations from faculty, as well as write their own self-evaluations, which will contribute to their overall transcript.

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  132. Lots'a work, really lots. But otherwise I am doin' real good thanks.

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  133. Well to coin 23's phrase - no shit!

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  134. JCM said...

    Evaluation Process

    At Evergreen, a student's learning and academic progress are assessed in narrative evaluations rather than grades. Students will receive multiple evaluations from faculty, as well as write their own self-evaluations, which will contribute to their overall transcript.
    _____________________________________________
    Heh.... kinda limits one's post-graduation employment opportunities to organizations that don't much care about grades ;-)

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  135. Monday's geyser in San Francisco:

    http://chuckles48.livejournal.com/368253.html

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  136. Good afternoon folks. Just finsihed a first draft of a document after sitting in front of my keyboard for 7 1/2 hours staright. I thought I'd call an end to my work day and see what was up on CC.

    If I were at Evergreen, I would demand that my performance be related to me through interpretive dance./

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  137. An outstanding Evergreen Evaluation.

    Thes quar... ahh, sems...term I burned a facist pig car and got arested lying in front of baby killers tanks.

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  138. turn--- He IS an opponent of ACTIVE euthanasia, but a promoter of care denial based on the comparative 'value' to society of a person's life. He is the source for the scale of 'worth' that recommends end-of-the-list rationing for the disabled (not so productive,)the old (no longer productive) and the very young (not yet productive.) The commission in the original House bill, the so-called 'death panel,' was to use Zeke's basic calculus.

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  139. Dianna, that little fuzzy thing way down there is a geyser?

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  140. Thanks for explaining that wolfie, was Palin referring to him?

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  141. Thes quar... ahh, sems...term I burned a facist pig car and got arested lying in front of baby killers tanks

    LOfrigginL

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  142. Yeah - he was shooting it with a cell phone camera. It's more amusing to watch the people trying to avoid getting sprayed on the video.

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  143. Good afternoon CE, you deserve to relax a bit after 7 1/2 hours straight. It seems I haven't been able to leave this site for more that 7 1/2 minutes today.

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  144. Putting pressure on the admins of CC is not the intent of this post, but has anyone heard a projected date for the new site?

    /just curious

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  145. O of S,
    If I were at Evergreen, I would demand that my performance be related to me through interpretive dance./
    ---

    Oh, ah you mean that crap that in Waldorf education is being used as a movement therapy?
    *barf*

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  146. Now I remember the real moonbatty place in Amherst is Hampshire College.

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  147. turn--- She, or whoever was advising her, was definitely familiar with his work and aware of his influence.

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  148. Callahan23: That seems about right. LOL. What a load of crap.

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  149. New thread up. I would have warned you all, but that wouldn't have been very sporting of me. : )

    I'll leave this one open for a bit. Looks like you have a good discussion going on.

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  150. Secnd quar ..err, umm I spiked rdwood tres and attnd spotted owl potest march.

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  151. turn said...
    Secnd quar ..err, umm I spiked rdwood tres and attnd spotted owl potest march.


    LOL!

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  152. Kosh--- Oh yes! Hampshire! I remember when it was entirely unstructured. Design your own major, design your own courses, design your own books, design your own professors, design your own grades, and pass the bong. Or not. Whatever.

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  153. Eschew, November 1st is our target. We have a big Halloween week planned and Pi Guy has set up a lot of great stuff here at Blogspot.

    Of course, this depends on de-bugging, but all major stuff is in place.

    I'll give you all some screen shots tomorrow.

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