
45,000 uninsured deaths?
By William Tate
Yet Democrats, and their media sock puppets, have shamelessly exploited highly questionable estimates of uninsured deaths as agitprop to shoehorn the entire population into just such a government-run health care system -- on steroids.[snip]
They cite an exaggerated claim that 45,000 Americans die each year because they don't have health insurance. That figure comes from a study funded by your federal tax dollars, even though it was recently distributed to the media by Physicians for a National Health Program, a fringe, pro single-payer group based in Chicago, the report's release scheduled to sway the healthcare debate.
The figure could be as high as 44,000, it could be 35,000, but their estimate that is most closely tied to the original data -- with the least extrapolation on their part -- is 27,000. And they admit that any or all of their guesses could be off as much as 11% because "those initially recorded as being uninsured" may be misclassified.[snip]
By contrast, a comprehensive study of over 35,000,000 -- yes, that's million -- acute care records over a recent three-year period concludes that preventable medical mistakes actually cause a similar number of deaths in the government-run Medicare program. The sixth annual HealthGrades Patient Safety in American Hospital Study examined records "among Medicare patients at virtually all of the nation's 5,000 non-federal hospitals" from 2005-2007 and determined that over 92,000 deaths were attributable to medical errors, about the same as the average estimate in the uninsured study.
"Baghdad" Jim McDermot lets the cat out of the bag.
Building a house of health (Rep. Jim McDermott)
By Rep. Jim McDermott
When one builds a house there is not unlimited money available, so choices have to be made. None of these decisions are simple or easy, but they will be made over the course of the next three years as we build the house of health. Cost estimates will be made, but anyone who has done home construction knows that unexpected things come up which require decisions....things come up which require decisions decisions like who gets care, how much care, who will be denied because it's not cost effective.
Prognosis improves for public insurance
Democratic leaders in the Senate and House have concluded that a government-run insurance plan is the cheapest way to expand health coverage, and they sought Friday to rally support for the idea, prospects for which have gone in a few short weeks from bleak to bright.
The shift in momentum is so dramatic that many lawmakers now predict that President Obama will sign a final bill that includes some form of government-sponsored insurance for people who do not receive coverage through the workplace. Even Democrats with strong reservations about expanding government's role in the health-care system say they are reconsidering the approach in hopes of making low-cost plans broadly available.
Lies about number of uninsured, lies about number of unisured deaths, lies about medical costs bankrupting families, lies about the costs, lies about rationing.
Every Democrat talking point to "sell" health care reform is damn lie.
Lieberman discusses Goldstone with Ban
Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman spoke on the telephone with United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon late Thursday on several Middle East issues, among them the Goldstone report which alleges that Israel may have committed war crimes during Operation Cast Lead in Gaza last winter.The truth and the Useless Nations are strangers.
Lieberman told Ban "a distorted reality" has been created wherein international forums give an automatic majority to countries where concern for human rights is a very low priority. Lieberman cited Cuba, Bangladesh, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia as countries making the international arena "hypocritical and prejudiced."
Final for something a bit different. From 1979, Milton Freeman pwns Phil Donahue on capitalism and greed.
First - and should be with an avatar too!
ReplyDeleteBTW, the graphic at the top of this post is just a big white rectangle for me with that damn smart ass red "x" in the corner!
Whoops, never mind, graphic shows up fine now!
ReplyDeleteRat terriers rock!
ReplyDeleteMorning RW,
ReplyDeleteEarly comment gets the avatar!
Fourth!
ReplyDelete/Gather ye avatars while ye may
Good morning.
ReplyDeleteSo how is that stimulus bill working out for you?
Bank failures hit 106 on year
"NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Seven more banks failed Friday, pushing the 2009 total to 106 and marking the first year since 1992 that at least 100 have gone under.
Experts suggest we could be no more than 10% of the way through this cycle of bank collapses, which is sure to be the worst run of closures since the Great Depression.
The parade of failures continued on Friday with closures of three banks in Florida, one each in Wisconsin, Georgia, Minnesota and Illinois."
And probably many more bank failures are on the way.
"While banks and thrifts are now well along in the process of loss recognition and balance sheet repair, the process will continue well into next year, especially for commercial real estate," FDIC chief Sheila Bair told Congress last week.
As a result, she said, the number of problem institutions increased significantly, to more than 400 during the second quarter.
Now, with unemployment near 10% and credit card default rates about the same, prime mortgage delinquencies are rising, stoking worries among the nation's banks that despite rising stock markets, fundamental banking industry health remains elusive."
Even Obama's own chief economist said the other day that the positive impact of the stimulus bill has topped out and will be marginal at best next year.
I have heard some people say that they think the stimulus bill has "worked". Obama's own policy wonk's disagree.
I tell ya I just don't understand the LEFT, er Democratic Party (well, actually the same thing!).
ReplyDeleteALL the polls show a majority of American voters DON'T WANT HEALTH CARE REFORM. But they are gonna cram it down our throats whether we want it or not.
And EVERY SINGLE PLACE where National Health Service has been called for has been a failure - as witness, say, the British NHS where they had to give 3,000 NHS employees' additional money to get PRIVATE health care cause they couldn't afford to "wait on a line" to get THEIR health care.
Sorta like the Dems here: All congresscritters, their staff's and all Federal Employess will be exempt from the new healthcare refrom bill.
And the Left STILL hasn't explained where the hell they came up with the number of 45 million American Citizens who can't afford health care and even if that number is correct, that's less than 15% of the population; so we're gonna trash our health insurance system completely, screw up the delivery of health care and slow down medical research (don't forget that "Big Pharma" does do about 80% of health care research in this country) all to help out the 15% of Americans who can't afford Health insurance?
Doesn't this strike SOME people as, well, EXCESSIVE?
Why not give those who can't afford health insurance enough dough to buy health insurance, make them prove that they used the money to actually buy health insurance and keep what we already have in place for 85% of Americans now?
Could it be that the Left Power elites will always get health care, the best that their already received wealth can afford, while the rest of us struggle along with government healthcare?
New Geography: so-called "progressive cities" as a (possibly unintentional) "white flight" phenomenon.
ReplyDeleteThumbs up on the whole thread, JCM, but especially for the Friedman clip!
ReplyDelete/I love that! :-)
So...what are the chances that we can get this heath care thing repealed after it's passed?
Finally Free - I don't see how this is possibly unintentional. The fact is that most of the Progressive Cities are also bastions of computers, website design and the like and jobs for those folks are largely driven by one's educational background.
ReplyDeleteWhile our erstwhile colleges and Universities are busy teaching Womyns Studies and Black Studies (sometimes called "African-American Studies") which lead to jobs in, well, teaching Womyn's Studies and Black studies, most folks who study engineering, Computer Science and similar fields wind up going where the jobs are.
And the jobs almost ALWAYS tend to be where the CEO's or Presidents of those companies live, e.g., the Progressive Cities.
And why do the exec's of these "hot new" fields of business choose these Progressive Cities? Cause they don't want to live in Detroit or the other "rust belt" cities because the quality of life is so, so, declasse!
Real, the issue on health care is not that the left actually cares much about the unemployed, heck we could buy insurance for these people with a lot less money.
ReplyDeleteIt is all about political power. If they can get more people dependent upon the Dem's for their health care, they can then demagogue the right in every election going forward and use this for their political gain.
That's all they really care about.
"So...what are the chances that we can get this heath care thing repealed after it's passed?"
ReplyDeleteZero.
Once it's in, the debate will only focus on how to redistribute income to pay for it.
Speaking of Ban, the UN -words which go together quite naturally- ---The UN officially came into existence on 24 October 1945 upon ratification of the Charter by the five permanent members of the Security Council—France, the Republic of China, the Soviet Union, the United Kingdom and the United States—and by a majority of the other 46 signatories.---
ReplyDeleteugh - what a colossal screwup raised to the ⁿth power with our current admin.
Morning everyone.
Hey {littleoldlady} Well as I understand it (and I hope if I'm wrong someone will correct me) these health care plans or health insurance plans won't really kick in until 2013. So if more intelligent folks,folks who don't believe in Government having control over the basic aspects of every INDIVIDUAL'S lives, get elected to Congress and to the White House, I'd say the chances are pretty good. But as with everything political, that's a crap shoot. Here we are with Obama in office for almost 11 months and a slim majority of voters still blame BUSH for the economy (which, thanks to the bias of the MSM, the LEFT gets away with cause they don't want to face the fact that the LEFT has been in control of congress going on Four straight years now).
ReplyDeleteBut if Health Care Reform starts SOONER, then I think it would take significant Republican Majorities in both houses of congress before these health care "systems" can be undone.
Once the populace gets used to having to have rationed health care, long waiting times to see specialists even though your life or certainly the quality of your life, hangs in the balance, then it becomes much more difficult to undo. And with a "Public Option" there won't be many if any private insurance companies left to take over from a wipeout of the health care reforms adnd especially the Public Option.
Sorry y'all but I gotta go now! I hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!
ReplyDeleteAt some point it's all going to get repealed. When government collapses under the weight of this spending.
ReplyDeleteThe choice right now is ours in the '10 midterms. We enough people have smelled the coffee to elect fiscally responsible reps, will can engineer a controlled descent in spending or continue this climb in spending and it flames out and crashes.
@JCM: let's just hope that the adults can be put in charge again before the Cloward-Piven strategy can do its damage.
ReplyDelete/Cloward and Piven have disciples outside the USA as well
@Realwest: Have a great day!
ReplyDeleteFinally Free,
ReplyDeleteI've been harping on Cloward-Piven for so long..... been called a conspiracy nut.
Cloward-Piven and Alinsky, Obama's book. Everything he's done and how he does it is there.
Nuts, I missed Realwest. Oh well, have a nice day what ever you are doing.
ReplyDeleteFirst break for me. Shopping done, laundry started, cooking started. Just have to do some dishes and reorg some dishes so I can start making some bread/pizza dough. Got my pizza sauce(tomato sauce I made thickened with extra tomato paste) cooking down a bit on the stove. It's great to be able to get a full cook out going on. :)
They cite an exaggerated claim that 45,000 Americans die each year because they don't have health insurance.
ReplyDeleteTo paraphrase my third-favorite political philosopher, Josef Stalin: One death is a tragedy, 45,000 deaths are a made-up statistic.
Cheers,
Anita Dunn
Ou sont les posteurs d'antan?
ReplyDeleteWhere the hell is everyone?
Should I leave a note..... nah.... I just act like nothing happened.....
ReplyDeleteOkay, okay, I'll go take a shower.......
ReplyDeletemumble grumble.
Looks like it's a slow Saturday morning.
ReplyDeleteJCM: ROFLMAO, I think I would have driven off as well. What model of BMW was that again? I think I may buy one after seeing what happened in that video. :D
ReplyDeletePhil, agreed, the BMW came through amazingly intact... they should use that in a commercial!
ReplyDeleteHeh: Trick or treat (hat tip: Dr. Sanity)
ReplyDeletePP,
ReplyDeleteLooks like the X-5 SUV, pretty damn impressive!
Break is over, time to get back on my head. See you all in a little while.
ReplyDeleteEarthquake Details
ReplyDeleteMagnitude
7.0
Date-Time
Saturday, October 24, 2009 at 14:40:44 UTC
Saturday, October 24, 2009 at 11:40:44 PM at epicenter
Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones
Location
6.161°S, 130.346°E
Depth
138.5 km (86.1 miles)
Region
BANDA SEA
Distances
230 km (145 miles) NNW of Saumlaki, Tanimbar Islands, Indonesia
365 km (225 miles) SE of Ambon, Moluccas, Indonesia
700 km (435 miles) N of DARWIN, Northern Territory, Australia
2610 km (1620 miles) E of JAKARTA, Java, Indonesia
Location Uncertainty
horizontal +/- 6.6 km (4.1 miles); depth +/- 9.2 km (5.7 miles)
Parameters
NST=121, Nph=124, Dmin=188.1 km, Rmss=0.84 sec, Gp= 22°,
M-type=teleseismic moment magnitude (Mw), Version=6
Source
USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)
Event ID
us2009ndan
Hey again y'all - break from chores here. Whew!
ReplyDeleteSome idiot drove a BMW SUV onto some cars at our apartment complex!
Can you believe that?
RW,
ReplyDeleteYou're kidding!? Is the video I linked from your place? Just a few comments up.
Hey JCM - yeah, I'm kidding! That happened someplace in Canada - Toronto I think. Saw it on F&F this morning!! LOL!
ReplyDeleteGot me! But I ceased to be surprised by the actions of a few.....
ReplyDeleteHey Realwest. Small break here as well while I let my bread dough rest for a little bit. Yeah that video was from Thornhill, just north of Toronto. Get a lot of those in my neighbourhood actually.
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, back at the ranch, Rasmussen shows Obama still in negative double digits for the 8th out of the last 9 days (and the one day he wasn't in negative double digits was -9)
ReplyDelete"Saturday, October 24, 2009
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows that 30% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -10 (see trends).
Thirty-eight percent (38%) of voters say deficit reduction is the top priority for Washington to obtain while 23% say health care is most important. Among Democrats, health care is most important. Among Republicans and unaffiliated voters, health care is fourth on the priority list.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
PP,
ReplyDeleteGet a lot of those in my neighbourhood actually.
Stacked parking or BMW X-5s? ;-P
Hey PaladinPhil - you have a LOT of those in your neighborhood? Damn, I'd be tempeted to put one of those spike strips on the roof of my car!
ReplyDeleteLOL!
How are ya doing and what's this I hear about you making pizza? Is it real (i.e., NYC)Pizza or that Casserole that folks in Chicago call "Deep Dish" pizza?!
Good morning.
ReplyDeleteRealwest, you're not encouraging me; I have to car shop, soon.
Good morning all. An arrest was made in that murder that was bugging me. We are all greatly relieved here. It was a local mental patient. That even had me more bothered than I care to admit.
ReplyDeleteGood morning {Dianna}! I sure hope you're ok physically after you, ah, totaled your recently paid off car!!
ReplyDeleteBut you shouldn't be discouraged, just buy yourself a BMW X5 SUV........or an Abrams M1A1 tank!! LOL!
Morning Dianna,
ReplyDeleteI can see you in this little buggy.
And meanwhile, more good stuff from Rasmussen:
ReplyDelete"Friday, October 23, 2009
For the first time in recent years, voters trust Republicans more than Democrats on all 10 key electoral issues regularly tracked by Rasmussen Reports. The GOP holds double-digit advantages on five of them.
Republicans have nearly doubled their lead over Democrats on economic issues to 49% to 35%, after leading by eight points in September.
The GOP also holds a 54% to 31% advantage on national security issues and a 50% to 31% lead on the handling of the war in Iraq.
But voters are less sure which party they trust more to handle government ethics and corruption, an issue that passed the economy in voter importance last month. Thirty-three percent (33%) trust Republicans more while 29% have more confidence in Democrats. Another 38% are undecided. Last month, the parties were virtually tied on the issue.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/trust_on_issues
JCM! You want our Dianna to drive a Toyota convertible? Good Lord man, think what'd happen if she ran into one of those BMW SUV's!!!
ReplyDelete:)
Good afternoon rawmuse! I'm sorry but I've sorta been off C2 a LOT more than on it lately.
ReplyDeleteWhat murder case are y'all talking about?
Realwest said...
ReplyDeleteJCM! You want our Dianna to drive a Toyota convertible? Good Lord man, think what'd happen if she ran into one of those BMW SUV's!!!
:)
D'oh! What was I thinking!
Here Diana, one of these will do!
A local guy my age was knifed once in the heart as he unloaded groceries from his car. That was Oct. 12. It was random, no apparent motive. No words exchanged, no robbery. The guy they arrested is schizophrenic and local too. The dead get was like me, just a local dude, no real enemies. It had been bugging me ever since, and I had been carrying my weapons more than I ever have before. My wife and I are really happy about this arrest.
ReplyDeleterawmuse, I can understand that getting to you; hell, it really does drive home the fragility of life.
ReplyDeleteBut you said that "The guy they arrested is schizophrenic and local too."
WTH was he doing out on the streets (and either off his meds or he had a criminal bent whether or not he was on or off his meds)?
Sorry there, I got distracted. Real, it's actually going to be a couple of calzones. I need something for work tonight and they transport and heat up better in a microwave. If I do make pizza though it's NYC style. :)
ReplyDeleteBRB, time to knead some dough.
Heh, JCM that's what I'm talking about! (although I'd prefer mine with twin 20mm cannons or a 30mm chain gun!
ReplyDeleteHey PaladinPhil - Calzones? Reminds me of that GREAT line from the Godfather "Take the calzones, leave the gun!" LOL!
ReplyDeleteRemember to rest and "shake out" your hands whenever you can my friend!
I was convinced it was MS13, but I was wrong about that. Nonetheless, MS13 is active here.
ReplyDeleteDianna, sorry about your car, hope you are OK. Now you get to buy a new car, how exciting!
Realwest,
ReplyDeleteBoy, some customers are so hard to please.
rawmuse,
ReplyDeleteHere in peaceful Seattle we had a stabbing at one mall, and shooting at another in 2 days.
I will still be vigilant, but will ratchet it down a notch.
ReplyDeleteWell as I said rawmuse I can certainly understand how it would affect you. But you also don't want to change your lifestyle because of it either. It was just random violence; occurs too often in too many places.
ReplyDeleteWhereabouts do y'all live, anyway?
Hey Dianna - are you still out here?
ReplyDeleteHi guys. Just got back from the hospital - my daughter's surgery went well, they kept her overnight because the surgeon had an emergency at another hospital and didn't get to perform my daughter's until about 10pm last night. She is up and moving around, and besides the expected soreness, is already feeling better. I'll check in later, now I am going to make her some soup and get her comfortable.
ReplyDeleteHey ArmyWife - great news! Is she home already (you said something about making her comfortable and making her some soup)?
ReplyDeleteYes, RW. We got home about 20 minutes ago.
ReplyDeleteI wonder where the heck everyone is today?!
ReplyDeleteReal good news ArmyWife. All our thoughts are with you both.
ReplyDeleteOh Great ArmyWife - can I ask what was the surgery for or is that asking for TMI? In any event I'm glad it's over and will pray for her speedy recovery!
ReplyDelete@ArmyWife. Great news. Refua shlema/full and complete healing.
ReplyDeleteOkay, first laundry load done, baked beans cooking, bread rising. Now what? :)
ReplyDeleteSit down, have a nice half glass of red wine and enjoy he smells!
ReplyDeleteCourse, would be better with some of that bread and some nice ricotta salata cheese!
I live in San Francisco.
ReplyDeleteSan Francisco? Huh, don't know why, but I've always sorta figured San Francisco as a relatively SAFE big city.
ReplyDeleteI know, rawmuse, that you said that the murder was a random act of murder by a schizophrenic,
but now I'm wondering if my impression of SF is true or not?
Well, don't know how this will turn out but I'm copying and pasting from an e-mail sent to me by a friend (sorta response to all the Redneck jokes)!
ReplyDelete"You might be a redneck if:
It never occurred to you
To be offended by the phrase,
'One nation, under God.'
You might be a redneck if:
You've never protested about seeing
The 10 Commandments
Posted in public places.
You might be a redneck if:
You still say ' Christmas' instead of
'Winter Festival.'
You might be a redneck if:
You bow your head
When someone prays.
You might be a redneck if:
You stand and place your hand
Over your heart
When they play the National Anthem.
You might be a redneck if:
You treat our armed forces veterans
With great respect,
And always have.
You might be a redneck if:
You've never burned an American flag,
Nor intend to.
You might be a redneck if:
You know what you believe
And you aren't afraid to say so,
No matter who is listening.
You might be a redneck if:
You respect your elders
And raised your kids to do the same.
You might be a redneck if:
You'd give your last dollar to a friend."
And I reckon, by those standards, I am a Redneck!
This is a good site for tracking crime anywhere in the USA.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.crimereports.com/
RW - she had her gallbladder removed.
ReplyDeleteOk, I'll be back later on this evening as I can!
Realwest, this one is for you. :)
ReplyDelete/well for those of us who get it.
Hey ArmyWife - well I reckon they must taken it out with that whatchamacallit little incision surgery and then just sucked it out or something!
ReplyDeleteI had mine out the old fashioned way - long deep cut in chest and abdomen and I tell ya I could barely walk for a week and praised the Lord for the invention of morphine!
I am SO GLAD she didn't have to go through that and that she's home where her mom can take care of her!!
Hey PaladinPhil - thank you for that one! But, I prefer this version:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIWb8HJ5gLo&feature=related
ReplyDeleteAnd, of course, us city boys can and do survive.
Realwest, the greatest advance in surgery has to be laproscopic(sp?). A lot of surgeries now a days are a hell of a lot easier on the patient because they don't have to be torn open. My friends mother had emergency heart surgery last week where they unblocked a few arteries using stents. She was home the next day. 15 years ago they wouldn't have found them in time or it would have been a major operation where she would have been in the hospital for a week afterwards. Thank god for modern medicine.
ReplyDeleteNice one Real, I may be a city boy now. I wasn't always one though. I am still in awe of skyscrapers. :D
ReplyDeleteLaproscopic!! THAT'S IT! Thank you kindly!
ReplyDeleteDamn, I hate it when I can't remember the name of something that I know I know! LOL!
Sigh, just another senior moment I reckon!
Well PaladinPhil I have to say that I've lived in Rural (and I mean rural where the "next-door"
ReplyDeleteneigbor was about two miles or so away), and I've lived in the suburbs and in Manahattan, NYC (the place I still think of as my hometown!) and I gotta say, there's good and bad in every place I've been - north, south and East - never lived West of the Mississippi River, though have visited Colorado, Texas, Arizona,California and Hawaii too.
Now I live in a suburb of Charlotte, N.C. - the state where I was born!
And I loved all the places I lived ('cept for when I was in the Army!) but I'd rather be in the Country or the City - suburbs have SOME of the best of both, but to my mind, they also have the WORST of both!
Hey there JCM, y'all still around?
ReplyDeleteReal, I agree with you on suburbs. they are set up in most areas so that no matter what a car is a neccessity to get anything or go anywhere. When I was in my hometown, I could walk or bike anywhere. Here in the city I walk or take the bus. All there is to it. Suburbs, you are shackled to your car.
ReplyDelete"Thank god for modern medicine."
ReplyDeleteEnjoy timely access to it while you can!
Hey PaladinPhil - you're sure right about that!
ReplyDeleteHell, y'all also are either too close to your neigbhors or not close enough in the suburbs.
Besides, I've always loved Rural America, peaceful and, for the most part, decent folks.
Cities - well for the most part, ENERGY and decent folks.
Suburbs - well decent folks whom you hardly ever see!
Anyway, I've moved on up to the new thread!
Thank G-d for modern medicine, indeed. Imperfect, but the best we have.
ReplyDeleteLaparoscopy
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ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, let's see if imeem would work: here is a spacey guitar+electronics tune named Midnight on Mars by Ashra.
ReplyDelete(No "target=blank" allowed. Yuck.)