I like to thank my agent....my proctologist, my gardner, my evil twin, the 1977 Denver Broncos, and of course, my aluminum sliding sales rep. ...this only proves, that you like me, you really, really like me...thank you...weep...weep..weep
I'm off to a birthday party so cannot stick around but I had a phone call from NY Nana and she asked that I extend her thanks to all of you for your kind thoughts and prayers.
Good night if you're leaving, ETR...Bare says he's never smoked catnip, and he's probably the only one here besides you who's ever thought about it. : )
CC, if I'da known earlier that Media Matters was going to do the complete round up, I wouldn't have spent all that time finding links for the Obamoprah Fiasco. They've got it all in one place for me, all wrapped up with a pretty bow.
Former French President Jacques Chirac has announced that he has given away his beloved dog after it attacked him for a third time. Sumo, a Maltese terrier, is reported to have bitten him in the stomach in their apartment in the capital, Paris. Mr Chirac's wife, Bernadette, said the dog had been treated for depression after finding it difficult to come to terms with leaving the Elysee Palace.
CC you really should read the BBC article I linked-there is a pic of the dog there also
the article continues
In January this year, Mr Chirac had to be hospitalised after the dog sank his teeth into an unnamed body part. In this latest attack, Mrs Chirac said that Sumo had been lying quietly at her feet but flew into a violent rage on the approach of her husband. The dog leapt up and nipped the former French leader in the stomach.
Good evening y'all - this is REALWEST! Glad to see you all out here given the "photo" that led this thread but I gotta question - why is she using the handicap booth?! And NO Bare - y'all didn't get away without your contribution to that fugly photo, not at all! LOL! And speaking of "funny", albeit not "ha-ha" funny, how's about this video - boy are they hot stuff or what? http://www.breitbart.tv/mansion-obamacare-backers-target-home-of-insurance-executive/
Does anyone here use Gravatar? Any complaints about it? Praise? We're thinking of using it on the new site...I just got an account and it seems pretty cool to me.
A study by the Department of Justice examined more than 5,000 bankruptcy cases between 2000 and 2002. It found that 54% of bankruptcies involve no medical debt, and more than 90% have medical debt of less than $5,000. Even among the minority of bankruptcies that report medical debt, only a few have enough to cause personal bankruptcy.
I was just looking at Steyn's latest comment on the Roman Polanski business, and it struck me.
How is Roman Polanski better than some polygamist in some compound in rural Utah with a thirteen year-old "wife"? Why does Hollywood love one and hate the other?
Hey CC - linking up my link? That sounds sorta, vaugley, ah,stimulating! Thankew! And what is Gravatar? And hi Pink and JCM!
Yes indeedy, Olympics or no Olympics - well actually just No Olympics but nice try Oprah, Michelle and Barry (in order of impotance) there is still no substitute for class-warfare - see my link up above or the one CC is putting up.
Man, HATE is a really Powerful Emotion and I'm afraid that one of these days the haters are gonna get hurt! Ya know, from a hernia or somesuch for the VOLUME of the hate they spew.
Gravatar is a site that links your avatar to your email address - so anyplace that uses Gravatar will automatically display the avatar connected to the email account you have associated with that site.
So let's say you associate a certain email address with the new CorrComm; once you go to gravatar.com and upload your avatar there, it will display it at CorrComm (if we decide to use it), and it will display it at any website with that email address for you on file if you post there.
Make sense?
Here's the link to the site where you sign up and upload the avatar you want to use. Check it out if you want to, and if it's too weird, Bare and I have already figured out a solution where your avatar is concerned.
Hey JCM! Uh, does that mean that 46% of all bankruptcies DO involve Medical Debt? That does seem kinda high to me, but also very effin' extreme if true. I mean, I got hit with a $265,000 hospital bill for a two week stay (doctors, labs and X-rays I paid seperately)without any surgical proceedures when I didn't have medical insurance and I could certainly understand THAT driving someone to bankruptcy, but I was also told by a hospital administrator - in a deposition under oath, no less - that this Private-for Profit hospital "calculated" its rates based on the money it lost from folks with no health insurance or medicare or medicaid; so that $265,000 was NOT based on what it cost the hospital to "house and feed me" for two weeks at all. I won, they lost. But it made me think; how many folks are driven to bankruptcy by this sorta perverse accounting system which I was told, again under oath, is prevalent in ALL hospitals?
Pinkie, if you see the link in my post to realwest above this one, check it out. Sign up with the email you plan to use at C2, and upload an avatar (you can stretch the box to include your whole image if you upload the current one - it should look fine, and they let you preview)...you can upload several and they just keep them there for you, if I'm not mistaken. Then you just have to select the one you want to use.
Any other site that associates you with that address will display it, too.
I went and checked it out when you mentioned it, CC. I'm a little on the fence about changing my avatar ...it was made specially for me by an absolute sweetheart and that has its own meaning to me.
CC - it sounds as if you use Gravatar to upload an avatar (*cough someone said they would upload my avatar - which appears if you click Realwest in the Corressponce Committe link, then click realwest - to my name at our final site *cough*) then anyone can get your e-mail addy by clicking your avatar? Are there alternatives that are worthwhile that you can turn on/turn off your e-mail addy?!
Well, I don't think "anyone can get your email address by clicking your avatar" - but I know a site that uses Gravatar, and I'll check to make sure I'm not mistaken about that.
That'd be a major drawback if true, but I can't imagine that it works that way. I'll check though to make sure.
Hey JCM - that's really astounding to me: that fewer than 1% of Americans file in bankruptcy each year - given our ever rising rate of unemployment and of our really rapidly rising rate of underemployment, NOT TO MENTION the tremendous increase in Mortgage Foreclosures and "Short Sales" I would have expect the % of bankruptices to be significantly higher than that.
Although President Obama has put off an immigration overhaul until next year, the federal agency in charge of approving visas is planning ahead for the possibility of giving legal status to millions of illegal immigrants, the agency’s director said Thursday.
“We are under way to prepare for that,” Alejandro Mayorkas, the director of the agency, the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services, said in an interview. Mr. Obama has told immigration officials that a legalization program would be part of legislation the White House would propose, said Mr. Mayorkas, who became director in August. The agency’s goal, he said, is to be ready to expand rapidly to handle the gigantic increase in visa applications it would face if the legislation, known as comprehensive immigration reform, passed Congress.
Damn, these old names just keep turning up. Anyway, I need some sleepage.
Evening all. Thought I would make last call at the Liberty tonight, instead I got greeted with THAT sight up there. Where are you Desert Sage? You have some 'splaining to doooo.
1 million out of 300 million that's one third of one percent. Even you only count working Americans (140 million) that still only 0.7%.
When it comes to medical bankruptcy, we're talking 50,000 people. While individually it's a hardship, it's not significant enough to completely throw the medical system under the bus.
JCM - I noticed that the last couple of sentences from you link were:
"ABI, an industry research firm, expects consumers to file more than 1.4 million bankruptcies in 2009, up at least 30% from last year's total of 1,074,225.
September 2009 filings rose to 124,790 which was up 4% from August 2009 and up 41% from September 2008." Which would account some for my misconceptions; there weren't any where near the number of people unemployed nor Mortgages foreclosed in 2008 - While Bush was POTUS, then there are almost 10 months after Obama became POTUS; and that ABI is projecting significant increases in the September 2010 filings, after Obama has had nearly two years as POTUS. Interesting! BTW, just out of curiosity, I wonder who ABI is and that there was a bankruptcy research business out there?
Uh, Correspondence Committee two things: one is do y'all remember what you told me about my avatar, hmmmmm? And secondly, I went to that website and didn't see any information there to idicted that e-mail addy's would be included with the avatars.
Yes, I do remember that - and it just depends on which service we use, or if we use one at all, how we do that.
Like I told you upthread, we gotcha covered.
Bare is using Gravatar right now, and he only gets a screen name when he hovers over it, nothing when he clicks on it. But we'll test it thoroughly IF we use it at all.
The American Bankruptcy Institute is the largest multi-disciplinary, non-partisan organization dedicated to research and education on matters related to insolvency. ABI was founded in 1982 to provide Congress and the public with unbiased analysis of bankruptcy issues. The ABI membership includes more than 12,000 attorneys, auctioneers, bankers, judges, lenders, professors, turnaround specialists, accountants and other bankruptcy professionals providing a forum for the exchange of ideas and information. In fulfillment of its mission to provide information to its members, journalists, Congress and the public, ABI is engaged in numerous educational and research activities, as well as the production of a number of publications both for the insolvency practitioner and the public.
Hey JCM, just saw and then went to and read your link on Personal bankruptcies topped the 1 million mark in the first nine months of the year, the first time it has done so in four years, according to an industry research firm released Friday. And while I agree that Mrs.Edwards has most certainly been abused by former Democratic Senator Edwards, methinks that the pity runs waaay to deep for her there; if costs of healthcare are really examined, then I expect her soon to be former husband would have had DRAMATICALLY less net worth, so she blamed it on the cost of healthcare. Now if she'd gone in and said "Tort Reform Is required to significanly lower health costs - and if you don't believe me, ask my divorce lawers who have examined my strange and estranged Husband's net worth and how he earned it." it would have a) been more accurate and b) have provided some ammo for folks pushing for Tort Reform!
Well you already know that I'm "skeptical" to say the least at the numbers of "uninsured Americans" who CANNOT AFFORD HEALTH INSURANCE as something in the 46 million range and believe the number to be MUCH closer to the 14 million estimated by the GOP. Yes, both Dems and the GOP have political reasons to "fudge" the numbers, but I seriously think that we ought to DEMAND to know where that 46 million number came from; the GOP already explained how they got the 12,000,000 number, because the difference is the same as putting a bandage on a patient or requiring truly radical, experimental surgery. But I'd still like someone stand up on the Senate floor and say "All federal employees, excluding the Military, must also follow whatever health care law is passed." Period.
Well all you fine folks, this is realwest going off to bed! I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.
Yep, as soon as every MF in DC earning a paycheck out off of the taxpayer get the "public option" then I'll listen. Till then no thank you.
Back when I was going to Community College, working like a SOB to pay tuition, buy books, put a roof over my head and food in my mouth I got sick with no insurance, spent a couple of days in the hospital and racked up a bunch of bills. I had zero insurance, none, zip, nada.
First I got the treatment, the hospital didn't kick my ass out. They got me well. Then I worked out a payment plan, I still had a couple grand left when I lost my job. I went to the billing dept. of the hospital and ask if I could suspend payments till I got a job. They offered to write the remain debt off.
I know Children's hospital in Seattle will treat every kid that comes through the door to the best of their ability, same with Swedish and other hospitals in the area.
I know getting approval for our foster kids to get care from the State is like pulling teeth. And to get timely care it's easier to pay out of pocket then spend months getting reimbursed. Though for routine care the medical coupons work well.
Obama and the (D)s have to tell fake stories, have (D) operative shills at townhalls to make their points.
The ones asking for the radical make over are lying through their teeth at every turn to take control of health care.
It all adds up, not to health care but to a power grab, the power of life and death over the individual.
I think it was yesterday morning that I linked to an article that said a lot more companies will be going bankrupt or "restructuring" in the next year and a half.
Just a hint of the unemployment numbers to come...
I was creating a graphic for a feature called "Afternoon News Dump" (it'll just be a thread with up-to-date news links), and I was using something I had thought of as a basis for it, and Bare tried to get me to use THIS HELEN THOMAS thing he made.
When I went to New Orleans two weeks ago I brought my own coffee and ....my own coffee cup, wrapped in a towel. Part of me thinks I may be too set in my ways.. LOL!
They're discontinued now which is why they're so much. When I bought them they were about 30.00 for four. I was surprised just now when I looked them up for ya'll.
Pinkie, if this blog were just Bare's without my influence, that graphic up there would be your "Afternoon News Dump" graphic. It would. I'm serious. LOL
A couple of years ago I decided to replace my everyday dishes (2 sets previously purchased at Bradlees for $12 FOR BOTH. I miss Bradlees! Sob!) with kind of a basic white set. I think I got 2 sets for $32 at Amazon. Can't find a picture, but the cup is a large heavy mug, at least 12 ounces.
Pinkie, if this blog were just Bare's without my influence, that graphic up there would be your "Afternoon News Dump" graphic. It would. I'm serious. LOL
I don't doubt you for a second. ;-)
Like Squatch said way up there ....it still makes me laugh!
You should put a "want it now" up on ebay, or just search for them every so often. If you are that attached to it, you might want to have a backup.
I've had an alert up for them for years. I've picked up a couple many moons ago but it's been a while since I've gotten any. How many cups does a girl really need?
So've I, littleoldlady. For decent money, too. I used to do garage sales regularly and my head used to be like an antique catalogue. I would buy entire sets and pack them all up and ship them to Replacements. Remember Russell Wright dinnerware? I've bought and sold lots of that. I collect Frankoma. Hull and McCoy too.
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ReplyDeleteMy eyes. Warning please CC
ReplyDeleteI just threw up in my mouth a little.
ReplyDeleteWhy does Helen Thomas whistle when she goes to the bathroom?
ReplyDeleteHey Sas you are one sick furry puppy.
ReplyDeleteNice. All on me.
ReplyDeleteROFLMFAO.
So she know which end to sit on.
ReplyDeleteHey Sas you are one sick furry puppy.
ReplyDeleteDetails, you gotta look at the details.
wow, my first first...
ReplyDeleteI like to thank my agent....my proctologist, my gardner, my evil twin, the 1977 Denver Broncos, and of course, my aluminum sliding sales rep. ...this only proves, that you like me, you really, really like me...thank you...weep...weep..weep
"In Dog Years, I'm Dead."
ReplyDeleteROFLMAO!
The New York Times....of course...it can double as TP once she's done reading
ReplyDeleteSince I raced Squatch up the stairs (and beat him), can I get anyone anything before I head back down and get things cleaned up?
ReplyDeleteI need to hit the hay -- lots o' football tomorrow, so I need my rest.
ReplyDeleteNight all.
Hey where is Sage? I have a few words to say to him. :)))
ReplyDeleteGoodnight Lucius!
ReplyDeleteWe need coffee, Brandy - and lots of it.
ReplyDeleteGreat job Sas. Sick, but GREAT JOB. :)))
ReplyDeleteI'm off to a birthday party so cannot stick around but I had a phone call from NY Nana and she asked that I extend her thanks to all of you for your kind thoughts and prayers.
ReplyDeleteI'm gone, ladies and gents. See you good people tomorrow!
ReplyDelete/races back up with two pots of coffee and mugs
ReplyDeleteHere you go, CC. See you tomorrow!
(Hey PBJ! Bye, PBJ!)
Meanwhile, Running Bare sneaks by taking zero blame. Awesome.
ReplyDeleteoriginal pic
ReplyDeleteAll I said was I wish I had photoshop.
Oh, and described everything you see there.
Except the legs. Look at the legs !!
Bwaaaahaaahahaaahaa.
Running Bare said...
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, Running Bare sneaks by taking zero blame. Awesome.
We are being kind to you ATM. Wait until you finish the new home. Then the gloves come off.:))
Original art by Running Bare. : )
ReplyDeleteexcept for that little add on.
Damn, that still makes me laugh.
ReplyDeleteGood night all....I am going to try and sneak in the exciting 3 dvd of John Adams! I'll let you know how it ends!
ReplyDeleteShoot, Nite and Thanks BW for the dance !
ReplyDeleteexcept for that little add on.
ReplyDeleteYup. remind me to reach across the table and give CC the finger.
I shuck a bottle upstairs. Only enough for two more drinks. Who is thirsty?
ReplyDeleteOdd way to put that, Bare.
ReplyDeleteYou can just flip me off from right there, thankyouverymuch. : )
WGN take on Olympics
ReplyDeletesasquatch - that is hysterical!
ReplyDeleteTHERE you are, Ms. catnip! Good to see you!!!!
ReplyDeleteGood Night all. See you on the other side. Thanks for the great company. :)))
ReplyDeleteCan you smoke catnip? If so I am staying for awhile.
ReplyDeleteNite ETR
ReplyDeleteGood night if you're leaving, ETR...Bare says he's never smoked catnip, and he's probably the only one here besides you who's ever thought about it. : )
ReplyDeleteMight not get an answer to that one.
Hi Lady! Hi everyone :-)
ReplyDeleteUnless 'Squatch has.
ReplyDeleteSHRINKIE!
ReplyDeleteDamn, you know how to make a girl feel welcome, CC!
ReplyDeleteAnother one
ReplyDeleteSENATOR EXPLAINS WHY HE WON’T READ ‘ARCANE’ LANGUAGE IN HEALTH CARE BILL
Never smoked catnip.
ReplyDeleteRolled around in it, but never smoked it.
hmmm...
CC, if I'da known earlier that Media Matters was going to do the complete round up, I wouldn't have spent all that time finding links for the Obamoprah Fiasco. They've got it all in one place for me, all wrapped up with a pretty bow.
ReplyDeleteWasn't that considerate of them?
http://mediamatters.org/research/200910020025
anyone remember Jacques Chirac?
ReplyDeletelol
Former French President Jacques Chirac has announced that he has given away his beloved dog after it attacked him for a third time.
Sumo, a Maltese terrier, is reported to have bitten him in the stomach in their apartment in the capital, Paris.
Mr Chirac's wife, Bernadette, said the dog had been treated for depression after finding it difficult to come to terms with leaving the Elysee Palace.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8287166.stm
too funny
Never smoked catnip.
ReplyDeleteRolled around in it, but never smoked it.
hmmm...
I'm telling dad.
He's laughing!
ReplyDeleteOh, thank you, Pink!
ReplyDeleteploome...there is something about the mental image of a dog just going off on Chirac that just makes me laugh my ass off.
I wonder how big a Maltese Terrier is. I'll have to look that up.
Hi Ploomie ....doggie depression, huh? So sad .....
ReplyDeleteI'm telling dad.
ReplyDeleteHA!
dog is depressed because they moved from the Elysee Palace
ReplyDelete:(
dog doesn;t like the new apartment
anyone remember Jacques Chirac?
ReplyDeleteI hope the dog doesn't get rabies.
OMG, I just looked up "Maltese Terrier".
ReplyDeleteAs if it wasn't funny enough already!
Back up on yer steed,#1
ReplyDeleteThat's a hell of thing to see when you come in the door!
ReplyDeleteI hope there's a stiff drink still available!
I'd probably be depressed too.
ReplyDeleteCC,
ReplyDeleteRat dog, or as known in Seattle; coyote bait.
JCM, you have to click on it so it enlarges ...and read the sign on the wall.
ReplyDeleteBack up on yer steed,#1
ReplyDeleteA planetary joke, iddnt he?
JCM, it attacked Chirac! LMAO
ReplyDeleteCC you really should read the BBC article I linked-there is a pic of the dog there also
ReplyDeletethe article continues
In January this year, Mr Chirac had to be hospitalised after the dog sank his teeth into an unnamed body part.
In this latest attack, Mrs Chirac said that Sumo had been lying quietly at her feet but flew into a violent rage on the approach of her husband.
The dog leapt up and nipped the former French leader in the stomach.
lol
SUMO! Oh man, that is a freaking riot!
ReplyDeleteCC,
ReplyDeleteLeave it to a Fwenchie to get attacked by a rat dog.
Pink,
ReplyDeleteI saw the sign.
I'd put that up in my cube at work, but since it's inside humor I won't.
It's funny as hell!
ploome,
ReplyDeleteSomething tells me it was a might bit lower than the stomach.
Good evening y'all - this is REALWEST! Glad to see you all out here given the "photo" that led this thread but I gotta question - why is she using the handicap booth?!
ReplyDeleteAnd NO Bare - y'all didn't get away without your contribution to that fugly photo, not at all! LOL!
And speaking of "funny", albeit not "ha-ha" funny, how's about this video - boy are they hot stuff or what? http://www.breitbart.tv/mansion-obamacare-backers-target-home-of-insurance-executive/
Hey if any of y'all see TFK, could you please tell him that his e-mail is broke - MailerDemon told me so!
ReplyDeleteThankew for your thoughtfulness!
Linking up your link, realwest!
ReplyDeleteReal,
ReplyDeleteEvening! Good to see you as always.
Hi Realwest! Anybody notice our patriotic search engine is celebrating Ghandi's birthday today?
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone here use Gravatar? Any complaints about it? Praise? We're thinking of using it on the new site...I just got an account and it seems pretty cool to me.
ReplyDeleteThe Healthcare Bankruptcy Myth
ReplyDeleteA study by the Department of Justice examined more than 5,000 bankruptcy cases between 2000 and 2002. It found that 54% of bankruptcies involve no medical debt, and more than 90% have medical debt of less than $5,000. Even among the minority of bankruptcies that report medical debt, only a few have enough to cause personal bankruptcy.
Lefty, lies, lies, lies.......
Wow, JCM. That's a jaw-dropper.
ReplyDeleteI was just looking at Steyn's latest comment on the Roman Polanski business, and it struck me.
ReplyDeleteHow is Roman Polanski better than some polygamist in some compound in rural Utah with a thirteen year-old "wife"? Why does Hollywood love one and hate the other?
Hey CC - linking up my link? That sounds sorta, vaugley, ah,stimulating!
ReplyDeleteThankew!
And what is Gravatar?
And hi Pink and JCM!
Yes indeedy, Olympics or no Olympics - well actually just No Olympics but nice try Oprah, Michelle and Barry (in order of impotance) there is still no substitute for class-warfare - see my link up above or the one CC is putting up.
Man, HATE is a really Powerful Emotion and I'm afraid that one of these days the haters are gonna get hurt! Ya know, from a hernia or somesuch for the VOLUME of the hate they spew.
CC,
ReplyDeleteThere isn't 40+ million un-insured crisis. There isn't a medical bankruptcy crisis...
Just remember who was teaching at Columbia when Obama attended.
CC, I know nothing about Gravatar ...but if you like it, I trust you.
ReplyDeleteGravatar is a site that links your avatar to your email address - so anyplace that uses Gravatar will automatically display the avatar connected to the email account you have associated with that site.
ReplyDeleteSo let's say you associate a certain email address with the new CorrComm; once you go to gravatar.com and upload your avatar there, it will display it at CorrComm (if we decide to use it), and it will display it at any website with that email address for you on file if you post there.
Make sense?
Here's the link to the site where you sign up and upload the avatar you want to use. Check it out if you want to, and if it's too weird, Bare and I have already figured out a solution where your avatar is concerned.
We got this. : )
Hollywood's been working on perfecting those double standards for decades, CC ...I doubt they're able to see their hypocrisy.
ReplyDeleteHey JCM! Uh, does that mean that 46% of all bankruptcies DO involve Medical Debt? That does seem kinda high to me, but also very effin' extreme if true.
ReplyDeleteI mean, I got hit with a $265,000 hospital bill for a two week stay (doctors, labs and X-rays I paid seperately)without any surgical proceedures when I didn't have medical insurance and I could certainly understand THAT driving someone to bankruptcy, but I was also told by a hospital administrator - in a deposition under oath, no less - that this Private-for Profit hospital "calculated" its rates based on the money it lost from folks with no health insurance or medicare or medicaid; so that $265,000 was NOT based on what it cost the hospital to "house and feed me" for two weeks at all. I won, they lost.
But it made me think; how many folks are driven to bankruptcy by this sorta perverse accounting system which I was told, again under oath, is prevalent in ALL hospitals?
Pinkie, if you see the link in my post to realwest above this one, check it out. Sign up with the email you plan to use at C2, and upload an avatar (you can stretch the box to include your whole image if you upload the current one - it should look fine, and they let you preview)...you can upload several and they just keep them there for you, if I'm not mistaken. Then you just have to select the one you want to use.
ReplyDeleteAny other site that associates you with that address will display it, too.
I went and checked it out when you mentioned it, CC. I'm a little on the fence about changing my avatar ...it was made specially for me by an absolute sweetheart and that has its own meaning to me.
ReplyDeleteHmm ...that sounds easy, CC. I'm not sure what else I would use, though. Maybe a real pic of me one of these days. :)
ReplyDeleteCC - it sounds as if you use Gravatar to upload an avatar (*cough someone said they would upload my avatar - which appears if you click Realwest in the Corressponce Committe link, then click realwest - to my name at our final site *cough*)
ReplyDeletethen anyone can get your e-mail addy by clicking your avatar?
Are there alternatives that are worthwhile that you can turn on/turn off your e-mail addy?!
You can use the same one, Pinkie. You just upload it there too.
ReplyDeleteWell, I don't think "anyone can get your email address by clicking your avatar" - but I know a site that uses Gravatar, and I'll check to make sure I'm not mistaken about that.
ReplyDeleteThat'd be a major drawback if true, but I can't imagine that it works that way. I'll check though to make sure.
Real,
ReplyDelete54% list no medical debt, meaning the remaining 46% list some medical debt, but 90% have less than $5k.
But fewer than one percent of Americans enter bankruptcy each year. Of those, only three to five percent are plausibly bankrupt due to medical debt,
Gotcha CC. Just seeing the picasa site now. Thanks!
ReplyDeleteHey JCM - that's really astounding to me: that
ReplyDeletefewer than 1% of Americans file in bankruptcy each year - given our ever rising rate of unemployment and of our really rapidly rising rate of underemployment, NOT TO MENTION the tremendous increase in Mortgage Foreclosures and "Short Sales" I would have expect the % of bankruptices to be significantly higher than that.
Hmmm....Alejandro Mayorkas.
ReplyDeletePresident Obama Announces More Key Administration Posts
Part of Clintons last hour pardongate,resigned after the report on the pardons came out.
Obama's New Immigration Chief Got Argentine Drug Dealer Pardon
Agency Plans for Visa Push by Residents Made Legal
Although President Obama has put off an immigration overhaul until next year, the federal agency in charge of approving visas is planning ahead for the possibility of giving legal status to millions of illegal immigrants, the agency’s director said Thursday.
“We are under way to prepare for that,” Alejandro Mayorkas, the director of the agency, the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services, said in an interview. Mr. Obama has told immigration officials that a legalization program would be part of legislation the White House would propose, said Mr. Mayorkas, who became director in August. The agency’s goal, he said, is to be ready to expand rapidly to handle the gigantic increase in visa applications it would face if the legislation, known as comprehensive immigration reform, passed Congress.
Damn, these old names just keep turning up.
Anyway, I need some sleepage.
Nite folks.
Evening all. Thought I would make last call at the Liberty tonight, instead I got greeted with THAT sight up there. Where are you Desert Sage? You have some 'splaining to doooo.
ReplyDelete'Night Squatch!
ReplyDeleteReal,
ReplyDeletePersonal bankruptcies topped the 1 million mark in the first nine months of the year, the first time it has done so in four years, according to an industry research firm released Friday.
1 million out of 300 million that's one third of one percent. Even you only count working Americans (140 million) that still only 0.7%.
When it comes to medical bankruptcy, we're talking 50,000 people. While individually it's a hardship, it's not significant enough to completely throw the medical system under the bus.
Hey P2! Sorry about that. LOL
ReplyDeleteGood night Squatch! Sleep well my friend!
ReplyDeleteJCM - I noticed that the last couple of sentences from you link were:
ReplyDelete"ABI, an industry research firm, expects consumers to file more than 1.4 million bankruptcies in 2009, up at least 30% from last year's total of 1,074,225.
September 2009 filings rose to 124,790 which was up 4% from August 2009 and up 41% from September 2008."
Which would account some for my misconceptions; there weren't any where near the number of people unemployed nor Mortgages foreclosed in 2008 - While Bush was POTUS, then there are almost 10 months after Obama became POTUS; and that ABI is projecting significant increases in the September 2010 filings, after Obama has had nearly two years as POTUS. Interesting!
BTW, just out of curiosity, I wonder who ABI is and that there was a bankruptcy research business out there?
Uh, Correspondence Committee two things: one is do y'all remember what you told me about my avatar, hmmmmm?
ReplyDeleteAnd secondly, I went to that website and didn't see any information there to idicted that e-mail addy's would be included with the avatars.
PIMF: indicated, not idicted!
ReplyDeleteDamn TypePad is ALWAYS making typos on me!
LOL!
Yes, I do remember that - and it just depends on which service we use, or if we use one at all, how we do that.
ReplyDeleteLike I told you upthread, we gotcha covered.
Bare is using Gravatar right now, and he only gets a screen name when he hovers over it, nothing when he clicks on it. But we'll test it thoroughly IF we use it at all.
Real,
ReplyDeleteAmerican Bankruptcy Institute
The American Bankruptcy Institute is the largest multi-disciplinary, non-partisan organization dedicated to research and education on matters related to insolvency. ABI was founded in 1982 to provide Congress and the public with unbiased analysis of bankruptcy issues. The ABI membership includes more than 12,000 attorneys, auctioneers, bankers, judges, lenders, professors, turnaround specialists, accountants and other bankruptcy professionals providing a forum for the exchange of ideas and information. In fulfillment of its mission to provide information to its members, journalists, Congress and the public, ABI is engaged in numerous educational and research activities, as well as the production of a number of publications both for the insolvency practitioner and the public.
Hey JCM, just saw and then went to and read your link on Personal bankruptcies topped the 1 million mark in the first nine months of the year, the first time it has done so in four years, according to an industry research firm released Friday.
ReplyDeleteAnd while I agree that Mrs.Edwards has most certainly been abused by former Democratic Senator Edwards, methinks that the pity runs waaay to deep for her there; if costs of healthcare are really examined, then I expect her soon to be former husband would have had DRAMATICALLY less net worth, so she blamed it on the cost of healthcare.
Now if she'd gone in and said "Tort Reform Is required to significanly lower health costs - and if you don't believe me, ask my divorce lawers who have examined my strange and estranged Husband's net worth and how he earned it." it would have a) been more accurate and b) have provided some ammo for folks pushing for Tort Reform!
Why thankew kindly for that explanation of the
ReplyDeleteAmerican Bankruptcy Institute JCM!
Real,
ReplyDeleteSeems WSJ and others use their numbers, including members of the media.
So, if the "source" of bankruptcy number says one thing. It begs the question why the MFMSM use lets the (D)s use the 64%?
Makes one wonder......
Oh look, 2.7 million jobs lost, highest unemployment rate in 26 years!
ReplyDelete/hip, hip, hooray, you go Obama and the Democrats (hopefully starting in 2010)!
Well you already know that I'm "skeptical" to say the least at the numbers of "uninsured Americans" who CANNOT AFFORD HEALTH INSURANCE as something in the 46 million range and believe the number to be MUCH closer to the 14 million estimated by the GOP. Yes, both Dems and the GOP have political reasons to "fudge" the numbers, but I seriously think that we ought to DEMAND to know where that 46 million number came from; the GOP already explained how they got the 12,000,000 number, because the difference is the same as putting a bandage on a patient or requiring truly radical, experimental surgery.
ReplyDeleteBut I'd still like someone stand up on the Senate floor and say "All federal employees, excluding the Military, must also follow whatever health care law is passed." Period.
Well all you fine folks, this is realwest going off to bed!
ReplyDeleteI hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.
Good night,all.
Real,
ReplyDeleteYep, as soon as every MF in DC earning a paycheck out off of the taxpayer get the "public option" then I'll listen. Till then no thank you.
Back when I was going to Community College, working like a SOB to pay tuition, buy books, put a roof over my head and food in my mouth I got sick with no insurance, spent a couple of days in the hospital and racked up a bunch of bills. I had zero insurance, none, zip, nada.
First I got the treatment, the hospital didn't kick my ass out. They got me well. Then I worked out a payment plan, I still had a couple grand left when I lost my job. I went to the billing dept. of the hospital and ask if I could suspend payments till I got a job. They offered to write the remain debt off.
I know Children's hospital in Seattle will treat every kid that comes through the door to the best of their ability, same with Swedish and other hospitals in the area.
I know getting approval for our foster kids to get care from the State is like pulling teeth. And to get timely care it's easier to pay out of pocket then spend months getting reimbursed. Though for routine care the medical coupons work well.
Obama and the (D)s have to tell fake stories, have (D) operative shills at townhalls to make their points.
The ones asking for the radical make over are lying through their teeth at every turn to take control of health care.
It all adds up, not to health care but to a power grab, the power of life and death over the individual.
Has everyone gone to sleep or are lurkers lurking?
ReplyDeleteI'm lurking. : )
ReplyDeleteLurk, lurk, lurk....
ReplyDeleteCleaning out my email...I just got an ad for an "Early Black Friday" sale.
ReplyDeleteUnbelievable! I wonder if any retailer WILL have a Black Friday this year. So many are operating in the red, bordering on maroon.
Hi ladies! I was installing a firefox add-on for my bookmarks -- it's about time.
ReplyDeleteDid you mean red, bordering on blood?
ReplyDeleteI've been watching Devil's Advocate ....NOT a good movie to watch when you're alone in the middle of the night. Scared the bejeesus out of myself.
ReplyDelete*Shudder!*
PINK! :-)
ReplyDeleteBlood red, indeed.
I think it was yesterday morning that I linked to an article that said a lot more companies will be going bankrupt or "restructuring" in the next year and a half.
Just a hint of the unemployment numbers to come...
That picture of Helen ↑ is also not good for sitting in front of the computer alone in the middle of the night.
ReplyDelete/Photoshop as a deadly weapon...
I lost my coffee cup... :-(
ReplyDeleteGood morning you two. : )
ReplyDeleteI was creating a graphic for a feature called "Afternoon News Dump" (it'll just be a thread with up-to-date news links), and I was using something I had thought of as a basis for it, and Bare tried to get me to use THIS HELEN THOMAS thing he made.
No. WAY. LOL
You lost your coffee cup?
ReplyDelete*dump* too funny! LOL
ReplyDelete/this probably wasn't the best thread to reveal that, CC
Good morning, CC! What happened to your coffeecup, littleoldlady?
ReplyDeleteI was cleaning the kitchen and I think it ended up in the dishwasher.
ReplyDeleteGot a new one. All is well.
Good morning, gurlz! :-)
When I went to New Orleans two weeks ago I brought my own coffee and ....my own coffee cup, wrapped in a towel. Part of me thinks I may be too set in my ways.. LOL!
ReplyDeleteI've had them for nearly 15 years and I love them; they fit my hand like a glove. Perfect balance. I have the whole set but my favorite is the fourth one down. A day started with the red flowered cup is always a good day.
Now the world knows my silly ways. :)
There you are, littleoldlady! Where'd CC run off to?
ReplyDeleteWOW. Careful you don't break that thing, Pink! That's an investment right there.
ReplyDelete;-)
They're discontinued now which is why they're so much. When I bought them they were about 30.00 for four. I was surprised just now when I looked them up for ya'll.
ReplyDeleteI was writing you some email, Shrinkie. : )
ReplyDeleteThat coffee cup looks like you!
What's yours like, lol?
You should put a "want it now" up on ebay, or just search for them every so often. If you are that attached to it, you might want to have a backup.
ReplyDelete/I understand, Pink, really. I do! ;-)
Pinkie, if this blog were just Bare's without my influence, that graphic up there would be your "Afternoon News Dump" graphic. It would. I'm serious. LOL
ReplyDeleteI've bought stuff like that from Replacements - you know about that place, right?
ReplyDeleteOh, duh...that place you linked to links to Replacements!
ReplyDeleteA couple of years ago I decided to replace my everyday dishes (2 sets previously purchased at Bradlees for $12 FOR BOTH. I miss Bradlees! Sob!) with kind of a basic white set. I think I got 2 sets for $32 at Amazon. Can't find a picture, but the cup is a large heavy mug, at least 12 ounces.
ReplyDelete/saves trips upstairs to the kitchen ;-)
Pinkie, if this blog were just Bare's without my influence, that graphic up there would be your "Afternoon News Dump" graphic. It would. I'm serious. LOL
ReplyDeleteI don't doubt you for a second. ;-)
Like Squatch said way up there ....it still makes me laugh!
I've SOLD stuff to Replacements. ;-)
ReplyDeleteYou should put a "want it now" up on ebay, or just search for them every so often. If you are that attached to it, you might want to have a backup.
ReplyDeleteI've had an alert up for them for years. I've picked up a couple many moons ago but it's been a while since I've gotten any. How many cups does a girl really need?
/don't answer that, you two!
but the cup is a large heavy mug, at least 12 ounces.
ReplyDeleteExactly! We need our large mugs.
I've SOLD stuff to Replacements. ;-)
ReplyDeleteSo've I, littleoldlady. For decent money, too. I used to do garage sales regularly and my head used to be like an antique catalogue. I would buy entire sets and pack them all up and ship them to Replacements. Remember Russell Wright dinnerware? I've bought and sold lots of that. I collect Frankoma. Hull and McCoy too.
I sold mostly pre-WWII made in Germany stuff. Rosenthal et al.
ReplyDeleteAlley oop! ↑
ReplyDeleteI'm closing this one. I'm sure everyone will breathe a sigh of relief. LOL
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