Wednesday, October 7, 2009

Today in History: October 7th





Highlights of this day in history: U.S. and Britain strike Afghanistan; Achille Lauro hijacked; Supreme Court pick Clarence Thomas faces damaging claims; Matthew Shepard beaten to death; Singer John Mellencamp born; 'Cats' hits Broadway.

Other notable October 7th events include:

3761 BC – The epoch (origin) of the modern Hebrew calendar.

1582 – Due to the implementation of the Gregorian calendar, this day is skipped in Italy, Poland, Portugal and Spain.

1912 – The Helsinki Stock Exchange sees its first transaction.

1916 – Georgia Tech defeats Cumberland University 222-0 in the most lopsided college football game in American history.

1949 – German Democratic Republic (East Germany) formed.

1952 – "American Bandstand" debuts on a local Philadelphia station.

1955 – Beat poet Allen Ginsberg reads his poem "Howl" for the first time at a poetry reading in San Francisco.

1963 – John F. Kennedy signs ratification for Partial Test Ban Treaty.

2003 – Gray Davis is recalled as Governor of California, three years before the official end of his office term. Arnold Schwarzenegger is elected Governor.

190 comments:

  1. More free medical advice:
    Dark Chocolate as a cough suppressant

    Keep that on your list of flu treatment tips.

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  2. Other notable births today:
    1728 Caesar Rodney, signer of the Declaration of Independence (Delaware)
    1900 Heinrich Himmler
    1943 Oliver North
    1952 Vladimir Putin

    After this date in 1849, Edgar Allan Poe would write ... nevermore.

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  3. 1582 – Due to the implementation of the Gregorian calendar, this day is skipped in Italy, Poland, Portugal and Spain.

    It is still chilly and raining here in CT, and now my coffee is gone. Can I skip today too?

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  4. Good morning Captain.

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  5. Morning Jim, boldandbald. I vote for a skip day too. Going to be a fun day I think.

    /note: staying out to last call on a work night is a bad move.
    //well, depends on how cute your companion is. :)

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  6. Good morning.

    The futures are pointing to the market opening on the upside. That having been said, gold has been jumping as investors are looking for a safe haven from the depreciating dollar.

    This morning on the local radio I heard the announcer say that the market has been going up cause of the improving economy. What? Where are there any improvements in the economy?

    The market is going up in some sectors cause of the depreciating dollar.

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  7. Morning P2. We will try to keep the volume down for you.

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  8. Morning 3wood. I am never really sure if your posts are good news or bad.

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  9. 'Morning, 3 wood! :-)

    My crowd is starting to sound a lot like yours. Layoffs galore. :-(

    What do you suppose the REAL percentage of unemployed is?

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  10. Morning, all. I'm already at work, too late to skip the day.

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  11. b&b: don't worry about volume, just keep the coffee coming and I will be fine.

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  12. What do you suppose the REAL percentage of unemployed is?

    I don't know what it's like in the states, I would add about 5% to the total minimum. I wonder how many people have just stopped looking for work?

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  13. Mmmmm. First cup of coffee...

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  14. Morning CtheP, good to see you again. And your puppy. Lightning right?

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  15. "LOL said...
    'Morning, 3 wood! :-)

    My crowd is starting to sound a lot like yours. Layoffs galore. :-(

    What do you suppose the REAL percentage of unemployed is?

    OCTOBER 7, 2009 5:21 AM"

    About 20%. For those under 25 years old and over 50 I think it is closer to 30%. A lot of folks I know over 50 have gotten the heave ho. In my old office. those around 50 or more got their positions eliminated, those well under 50 got new appointments.

    Strange how that happens.

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  16. Man, there's a lot of dogs around here!

    /pix, I mean ;-)

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  17. Morning, PP. Good to see you as well. Yes, that's my girl in the photo. Just looked at yours -- a fine looking animal...

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  18. Morning all. Frickin' Tigers.

    /grumble, mumble into my coffee

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  19. "Morning 3wood. I am never really sure if your posts are good news or bad."

    I just try to tell it the way it is, absent the MSM spin.

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  20. Strange how that happens.

    REALLY strange, since that's exactly the age (50) where health insurance gets much more expensive.... hmmm.

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  21. Will something like this work for you, P2?

    http://www.fiveononemagazine.com/gallery/v/Kyle+Von+Brown/i+heart+coffee+jpeg.jpg.html

    If someone has the link to the page that shows how to link with your own text, could you post it for me? I have it in my bookmarks at home, but not here at work.

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  22. Well one piece of good news, a guy I know who got layed off a few weeks ago found a new job already. Somebody is hiring.

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  23. Speaking of unemployed - talked on the phone to a lady (at a shipping company) who SHOULD be unemployed...

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  24. Violet Tiger is hiring today.

    /but she left already, and unless you're an engineer and/or a college student, it's probably a waste to apply.

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  25. "REALLY strange, since that's exactly the age (50) where health insurance gets much more expensive.... hmmm."

    Yeah, can't prove it but I suspect that there might be a bit of adverse selection going on.

    If you are over 50 and still have a job, watch your back on the job.

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  27. Speaking of unemployed - talked on the phone to a lady (at a shipping company) who SHOULD be unemployed...

    The incompetent never lose their jobs.

    They've got unions to protect them.

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  28. "Morning all. Frickin' Tigers.

    /grumble, mumble into my coffee"

    Hey, look at the bright side, you have the Lions.

    Ooops, nevermind, my bad...

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  29. JTK -- unions and liberal laywers...

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  30. So, I guess some tags work here?

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  31. We had huge winds all last night and a lot of lines down. We're in the city and only lost power for about 5 hours. Does anyone here know why there might be generators attached to the green electrical utility switch-boxes in my neighborhood? They're house-sized generators so they're not the reason my power is back on, but what would they be for?

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  32. How come no one plays tiddlywinks anymore?

    /random thought

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  33. Some tags, but not many.

    No way I can create my famous HTML American flags here. (Who remembers those?)

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  34. If only the Bears would move to Detroit, then they'd have -- wait for it -- Lions and Tigers and Bears (O my!)...

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  35. Google says it's invention of the bar code day.
    Much more important to have that graphic up than a 9/11 banner.

    F***ers.

    Morning,C2

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  36. I am having all kinds of internet issues this morning.

    Good morning to all the newcomers!

    Thanks Captain.

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  37. Is it wrong if I fall asleep at my desk with my eyes open?

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  38. "Sam, I'll have the usual."

    (My bar code.)

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  39. House: Working hard or hardly working?

    Like most Americans, members of the House are expected to report promptly — no excuses — when summoned by their bosses for the start of another workweek. One difference: For lawmakers, starting time doesn’t come until about 6:30 Tuesday evening.

    After taking control of the House in 2006 — and again when President Barack Obama was elected president in 2008 — Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) boasted that lawmakers would work four or five days a week to bring change to America.

    But midway through Obama’s first year in office, Hoyer’s House has settled into a more leisurely routine. Members usually arrive for the first vote of the week as the sun sets on Tuesdays, and they’re usually headed back home before it goes down again on Thursdays.

    Since the House returned for its fall session on Sept. 8, it has stuck around to vote on a Friday just once: to approve a 5.8 percent increase in Congress’s own budget.

    A Democratic leadership aide vehemently defended the schedule, saying members shouldn’t be kept in Washington for four or five days when work can be completed in fewer.


    /is it November 2010 yet?

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  40. "Is it wrong if I fall asleep at my desk with my eyes open?"

    I don't know if it is wrong, but I am not sure it is possible...then again, it would explain a lot as far as the DMV is concerned.

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  41. I personally think that the less time this Congress is in session, the better.

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  42. "/is it November 2010 yet?"

    It can't come too soon.

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  43. littleoldlady said...

    Morning,LoL

    It's Gray Davis day, let's recall all of 'em.
    /I wish

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  44. Dam Simpson, an American Patriot....NOT

    Sack the general; stop the war
    Gen. McChrystal the lobbyist is wrong about Afghanistan



    What is going on with Gen. McChrystal and Mr. Obama is that a few months after having been given command of U.S. forces in Afghanistan by Mr. Obama, Gen. McChrystal has looked at the situation and now wants 40,000 more U.S. troops. He already is authorized 68,000, so the 40,000 would constitute about a 60 percent increase. That may well be Gen. McChrystal's honest assessment of how many troops it would take for the United States to "win" in Afghanistan -- if anyone could figure out what "winning" means in that tormented country.

    It is important to bear in mind that the textbook military analysis of how many troops it would take to nail down a country the size and population of Afghanistan is 480,000. The United States finally had more than 543,000 in Vietnam and didn't win.

    What is actually going on, whether Gen. McChrystal intends it to be the case or not, is that he is saying to Mr. Obama loudly and publicly, "Give me more troops. If you don't, I'll lose and it will be your fault."


    I guess Gen. McChrystal is just a lobbyist for the evil Defense Department!

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  45. It's Gray Davis day, let's recall all of 'em.

    TOTAL RECALL!

    Heh, starring Arnold Schwarzenegger.

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  46. "re: "you have the Lions."

    You. Bastard."

    It's going to take a while to recover from the Mat Millen experience.

    Did Stafford (rookie QB) recover from his owwie yet?

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  47. JamesTKirk said...
    It's Gray Davis day, let's recall all of 'em.

    TOTAL RECALL!

    Heh, starring Arnold Schwarzenegger.


    If California wants to solve it's problems, they should lock the doors at the Capitol and unplug the phones at the Govenators office.

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  48. It will be Obama's fault if we lose or quit at this point. Let's just hope it doesn't come to that.

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  49. By the way, when I saw Culpepper come into to the Lions huddle last weekend, I knew the game was over.

    The Lions have a linebacker or two who need some tackle drill practice. Forte ran through them like he was the 2nd coming of Walter Payton.

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  50. Arnold has been a mixed blessing. Sometimes he says or does the "right" thing, other times you watch and wonder "OMGWTFBBQ?" However, he's an improvement in every way, shape, and form over Gray Davis (or just about any other prominent California Democrat who wants the position). He also gets points for being one of the small minority of California celebrities who doesn't think rape of a 13-year-old is a forgivable youthful indiscretion.

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  51. Zazi's Nabber

    Intelligence officials say alleged terrorist plotter Najibullah Zazi was caught not thanks to domestic surveillance but by CIA tracking of al-Qaida. The White House says the president did it.

    Imagine you, or perhaps your father, were one of the five Marines who raised the American flag on Mount Suribachi during the Battle of Iwo Jima in 1945. Then imagine seeing Joe Rosenthal's Pulitzer Prize-winning photo of that iconic image.

    But then you read the caption below the photo. It says that according to the White House, what those Marines were doing was the result of "President Roosevelt's deep involvement in the war effort." The claim is that the Marines only had sketchy information about Iwo Jima, but the president sensed something and held "an intensive three-week White House focus" on the impending attack.

    Wouldn't it sound fishy? Wouldn't you feel as if the real heroes had been dishonored for the sake of an oversized presidential ego?

    Of course, FDR made no such claim. But the Obama White House is taking credit for the arrest of Zazi, the 24-year-old Afghan immigrant who allegedly was plotting a terrorist attack in New York City. Authorities believe he was trained by al-Qaida in Pakistan and sought common beauty products to make bombs.


    /Lord Obama the Omnipresent and his motley band of enablers have no shame

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  52. Thirteen months and counting down...

    I have no doubt that Obama and his ilk (Rahm, Jimmah, Bubba, etc) are doing all they can to precipitate and preside over (and profit by) America's decline to second or third world status. They want us subservient to the UN, regardless of the disaster that would bring to Americans.

    Just recently Madeline Albright said (overseas, as I recall, naturally) that the Americans no longer want to lead the world (can't recall if she used that exact term or not but it is basically what she meant). Does anybody really believe that Americans want to see their nation decline? Perhaps she should have asked us first before running off at the mouth.

    Treasonous bastages, the lot of 'em...

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  53. 3wood said "Did Stafford (rookie QB) recover from his owwie yet?"

    He's "day by day". Well, duh. Aren't we all? Thing is, if his kneecap popped back in so easily, won't it just pop back out at the first loving contact from a linebacker?

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  54. If the Democrats don't want to lead the world, let them go back to community organizing and give the White House back to the adults (if we can find any - apart from Little Old Lady, who still has my vote).

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  55. I was watching a show about the Vikings the other day (the real ones, not the football team), and one of their famous kings said (paraphrasing) that the mighty oak of treason springs/grows from the acorn of treachory.

    Somehow I suspect that that is where ACORN got its name...

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  56. National Editorial: No, you can’t see the health care bill

    When then-Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama promised not to sign major legislation until it had been posted on the Internet for public reading at least five days, trusting voters took him at his word.

    Now they know better. Not only is the actual language of what is likely to become the main legislative vehicle for Obama’s signature health care reform not available on the Internet, it hasn’t been given to members of the key Senate committees or the Congressional Budget Office.

    All that is available to those worried about a massive government takeover of our health care system is a 262-page description of the bill’s provisions. Bill descriptions mean nothing and bind nobody.


    Democrats lied their asses off through their teeth? I'm shocked!

    /say it ain't so

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  57. Democrats lied their asses off through their teeth? I'm shocked!

    I'm impressed. That sounds like it required some major contortionism.

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  58. Looks like gold is where its at.

    Gold Rise to Record Shows Investors Split With Banks.


    "Gold’s rally to a record shows commodity investors remain concerned that the U.S. economic recovery will spur inflation even as Wall Street forecasts and government bonds suggest stable prices.

    Bullion has jumped 18 percent this year, heading for a ninth annual gain, and futures touched a record $1,049.70 an ounce today amid rising demand for a hedge against inflation and a weaker dollar. Economists surveyed in the past month expect U.S. consumer prices to fall 0.5 percent this year, the first drop in five decades."

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  59. Do you know how you can tell when a Democrat is lying? His lips are moving...

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  60. Gotta go CCers.

    My evil employers actually expect me to work for my pay. FASCISTS!

    Later!

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  61. Kirk,

    Being the recognized master of "The $2 dinner" and the author of "America on $10 a day" I'd be a pretty good President, economy-wise, if I do say so myself.

    VOTE FOR ME!

    /if you can ignore my nasty tendency to want to bomb anyone who isn't nice to us, that is.
    //Hey! We paid for those bombs! I say LET'S USE THEM!

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  62. "He's "day by day". Well, duh. Aren't we all? Thing is, if his kneecap popped back in so easily, won't it just pop back out at the first loving contact from a linebacker?"

    Most of the guys on the team are more banged up than that. He needs a skirt and maybe a pair of heels out there. You don't get 4 games into the season and not be hurt. Ice it down, strap it up, and go play.

    You watch, every time he falls behind and gets hit, he'll leave the game. Years ago the Bears had a wide receiver named Rickey Watts who did that. The papers mocked him and call it "Rickey Watts disease" to this day.

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  63. Well, got to run. Later folks.

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  64. 3wood, I remember reading that the Great Depression (GD1?) was typified by low consumer prices and high unemployment, right? If you had a job, you were not greatly effected because there were goods to buy and they weren't expensive.

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  65. Hey! We paid for those bombs! I say LET'S USE THEM!

    We can always make more!

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  66. Today also marks the announcement of the winners of the Nobel prize for their research on the ribosome. turn tells you the ribosome in one of the most amazing peaces of evolution, it's a little machine that puts together all of the proteins in your body. It reads in DNA like a ticker tape and assembles an exact copy of the protein coded by the DNA.

    Ribosome

    Some day man is going to be able to use molecular nanotechnology to build a nanoscale "assembler" which will be able to do essentially the same thing with inorganic matter. The little machine will be able to position atoms one at a time in a precise programmed pattern. Just as a simple example of the power of such a device; an assembler could build a potato out of dirt using far far less energy than it would take to grow it. The only difference between dirt and a potato is the arrangement of the atoms, an assembler will be able to arrange them in the proper orientation. K. Eric Drexler is the father of molecular nanotechnology. Oh, morning all. Shit turn missed a good game Monday night ...


    read Drexler's "Engines of Creation"

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  67. We can always make more!

    JOBS FOR AMERICA! :-)

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  68. Bye 3 wood! :-)

    Hi turn! :-)

    An Israeli lady won (part of) that prize!

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  69. 3 wood

    Figured you's like this economis-related story -- I was talking to a cute blond girl (probably 30 or so, graduate of Syracuse U.) who was a teacher, lamenting the ignorance of kids coming out of schools and she started on that crap about letting kids form their own conclusions about things (as opposed to being taught about how things work in reality).

    So I asked her -- what if their conclusions or beliefs are wrong? She wanted an example, so I said that schools today basically lead kids to conclude that capitalism is basically evil and that socalism is the way to go. Yet, capitalism, with its profit motive, is what delivers the high standard of living we enjoy.

    As an example, I explained that when refrigerators were first introduced, they were very expensive and only the wealthiest people could afford them. The manufacturors then took those profits, reinvested them in plant and equipment and with the efficiencies and economies of scale obtained, were able to produce refrigerators much less expensively, allowing prices to drop and making them available to the general public, not just the wealthy.

    Her response? Well, that was simplistic, but she couldn't tell me why.

    It was all I could do not to laugh in her arrogant though pretty little face...

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  70. Hey Turn, you're smart, right? Do you have an answer for my generator question about 2/3 the way up the thread?

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  71. I think I like Jim better...much, much, much better

    The Doers vs. The 'Thinkers'


    As it happens, I also have two imaginary friends (and boy, do I need them), named Mr. Hoover and Jim.

    Mr. Hoover knows everything. He attended a highbrow graduate school and worked as a Senate aide before becoming a policy expert. (He even pretends to understand Jeremy Bentham.) He is a man who craves acceptance from the other smart people who surround him.

    Jim is pretty smart, too, but hasn't squandered his talent working in Washington. Rather than theorize about economics, Jim takes an authentic risk by starting a business. He ends up employing 20 people and creating the capital that helps pay for their health insurance -- as well as fund many of the social safety net programs that Mr. Hoover dreams up.

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  72. {lol} more bombs!

    Today also marks the 8th year in Afganastan, talking about more bombs ... isn't it time to take the friggn gloves off over there? This strategy of no collateral damage doesn't seem to be working all that well ...

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  73. Re: Afghanistan, it is a dangerous line to walk. McChrystal says that if we meet 10 Taliban and kill two of them, we don't have 8 enemies left, we have 20 or more now with their families. What do you think about that? They also do respond to overwhelming force, so maybe with the gloves off we can crush the movement so hard that their families can't or wouldn't dare respond.

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  74. Spenser -- I suspect that we started out with the original 20, as the family likely (though not necessarily) were already Taliban themselves...

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  75. Morning Spenser, I'll go upthead and check it out. I'm not all that smart, nanotechnology is just something I'm pretty well versed on. I used to argue with all the doom and gloomers like KT that said overpopulation was going to ruin the planet because I truely believe that molecular nanotechnolgy will COMPLETELY transform our way of life. Zero footprint with unlimited potential (if it isn't used to destroy mankind).

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  76. So for every Taliban you kill, ten more materialize? As a linear function, that's simply impossible; eventually you'll reach a point where the curve will reach a maximum, and then start trending down again.

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  77. I used to argue with all the doom and gloomers like KT that said overpopulation was going to ruin the planet

    As we keep discovering through the Hubble telescope, God has given us far more than one planet.

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  78. (if it isn't used to destroy mankind).

    "Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

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  79. Morning, {all y'all} from a very muggy 80 degree deep south.
    Yuck.

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  80. Spensor, generator? Are you sure? I've never heard of such a thing ... might they be transformers?

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  81. Nobel chemistry prize awarded to trio

    The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences announced Wednesday that Americans Venkatraman Ramakrishnan (born in India) and Thomas Steitz and Israeli Ada Yonath will be the Nobel chemistry prize laureates. Their work on the structure of ribosomes was cited.

    http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/10/07/nobel-prize-chemistry225.html

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  82. Moring {red} Can't stand the humidity ... yuck is right

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  83. JTK said "So for every Taliban you kill, ten more materialize? As a linear function, that's simply impossible; eventually you'll reach a point where the curve will reach a maximum, and then start trending down again."

    I tend to agree, but that's what McChrystal was saying they at least have to be aware of.

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  84. Desert Dog! :-)

    I've introduced you to my friends Mr. Hoover and Jim because they represent the choices we face in this nation on issue after issue. From its inception, the United States has squabbled over the appropriate role of government -- one that pundits on cable TV, for all their bluster, rightly label a debate between socialism and free markets. Yes, this debate pits the theoreticians against the doers, but it is largely a fight between the state and the individual.

    So let's have the debate. But before we do, let's understand that Mr. Hoover is going to win. Mr. Hoover always wins. He takes no real risk. If he can't convince us, he has the power to bribe, print money, "compel" citizens, bully and monopolize the process. It's no more complicated than that.

    If you want to pass anything, he is your man.


    OY. :-(

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  85. Morning, red! :-)

    Howdy, Kenneth! :-)

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  86. Spenser, here is a wiki on what the doomsday scenerio is ...

    Grrey goo

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  87. CtheP said...
    Spenser -- I suspect that we started out with the original 20, as the family likely (though not necessarily) were already Taliban themselves...

    I read Lone Survivor, and, despite its faults, the book gave a fantastic "grunt's-eye view" of the clan/tribal culture that prevails in the Afghanistan/Pakistan border area. These folks don't give a rat's ass for country; it's best to view them (IMO only) as gangs with high moral standards (their morals). The SEAL whose story is told in the book was sheltered by a village that then risked everything in protecting him. But, on any other provocation, they'd have killed him.

    They make the Hatfields and McCoys look like pikers in comparison.

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  88. Turn said "Spensor, generator? Are you sure? I've never heard of such a thing ... might they be transformers?"

    Transformers? There are no killer robots on my street, I can promise you that.

    Seriously, I am 99% sure they were generators. Gas-powered and running and attached to the green utility boxes.

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  89. Re: Afghanistan, it is a dangerous line to walk. McChrystal says that if we meet 10 Taliban and kill two of them, we don't have 8 enemies left, we have 20 or more now with their families. What do you think about that? They also do respond to overwhelming force, so maybe with the gloves off we can crush the movement so hard that their families can't or wouldn't dare respond.



    You're right Spensor, it's a delicate ballancing act ... I hope we get it right. At any rate I think we'ld agree more troops are needed.

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  90. I tend to agree, but that's what McChrystal was saying they at least have to be aware of.

    It might be true now, under the current situation, up to a point; but it reminds me of the static scoring method for taxes where increased taxes always bring in increased revenue (unlike the dynamic scoring method which actually reflects reality and is therefore not used).

    If you kill the entire population of Afghanistan, will you then have to face a Taliban numbering ten times that amount? Where did they come from? There truly is a limit to how many people the Taliban can get, how many people will be available, able, and willing to join the Taliban. If the US employs the right methodology, that "willing" factor becomes significant -- people might either fear fighting the US more than they fear disobeying the Taliban recruiters, or we can eventually win over the common people (like the surge did in Iraq) so that they see the militants, not us, as the enemy.

    "So for every Taliban you kill, ten more materialize?" That's a limited, modifyable, condition.

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  91. OLT

    I have that book and it's next on my list to read (am rereading The Godfather at the moment).

    I've put off reading it as it looks somewhat depressing.

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  92. Transformers? There are no killer robots on my street, I can promise you that.

    They may be... in disguise.

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  93. CtheP said...
    OLT

    I have that book and it's next on my list to read (am rereading The Godfather at the moment).

    I've put off reading it as it looks somewhat depressing.


    My review? Unbelievable All-American heroes, horrible, horrible, horrible editing.

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  94. Good Mornin', c-squares! What are we discussing this morning?

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  95. BDVM:
    Afghanistan vs. Robots in Disguise

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  96. BDVM, nanotechnology, generators, killing, bombs, and boobs

    boob thread! ha, just kidding

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  98. If Taliban keep materializing, Kirk, put Scotty on tracking down their transporter signal by cross-wiring the flux capacitor with the dilithium crystal containment field. While it will only hold for eight minutes (plus commercials) before ripping the Universe a new wormhole, it should allow Uhuru to swivel sexily in her chair, move a few plugs, and give coordinates for a phaser strike.

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  99. Anybody see Michael Moore on Hanity last night? Blew turn away, he's a christian.

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  100. OLT, what trouble are you getting into the AM?

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  101. Boobs & bombs - so we're talking about Michael Moore & his latest movie, then?

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  102. OLT said:

    My review? Unbelievable All-American heroes, horrible, horrible, horrible editing.

    That will make it even more depressing -- I hate sloppy (formal) writing... As an edumacator, it gets under my skin and really distracts from the topic.

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  103. turn said...
    OLT, what trouble are you getting into the AM?

    I'll be bailing soon, and then I'll start the trouble.

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  104. Actually, McChrystal's full comment on counterinsurgency math was much more complicated. He said that by killing two you might go from 10 to 0, because the rest would decide it's not worth it, but on the other hand you might go from 10 to 20 because the rest of his family might join the fight. That knowing when to kill and when not to was very important and a difficult decision.

    I have tried to find the text of his speech, but it seems to have vanished from the Telegraph & BBC websites. Meanwhile, people are misquoting his comment by leaving out the second half of the equation.

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  105. OldLineTexan said...

    If Taliban keep materializing, Kirk, put Scotty on tracking down their transporter signal by cross-wiring the flux capacitor with the dilithium crystal containment field. While it will only hold for eight minutes (plus commercials) before ripping the Universe a new wormhole, it should allow Uhuru to swivel sexily in her chair, move a few plugs, and give coordinates for a phaser strike.


    If it was only that easy :-(
    "Uhuru, send this message to the Taliban: GIVE UP OR GET VAPORIZED. YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES"

    "Scotty, load all torpedo bays and charge phasers to maximum. Prepare to fire in 10 minutes"

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  106. Mikey Moore should re-read the Biblical passages on lying, methinks.

    But that makes me a bad, bad person in some circles.

    TOUGH.

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  107. Well, those tests and term papers aren't going to grade themselves...

    (reminds me of one of my favorite bumper stickers: "It's not gonna lick itself.")

    You all have a great one and likely will BBL...

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  108. CtheP,

    I hate to add to your depression, but it is easily the worst-written book I have ever finished reading.

    His ghost-writer or whatever should be punished.

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  109. OLT -- well, if it is really bad, I'll put it down and not bother with it. Damn shame, if it comes to that, as it looks like a story I'd want to read, however depressing it is.

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  110. How much difference a word makes.

    Beer = Good
    Non-alcoholic beer = Bad
    Rolling Stones = Good
    Kidney stones = Bad
    Boobs = REALLY GOOD
    Man boobs = REALLY BAD

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  111. OLT

    Mikey Moore should re-read the Biblical passages on lying, methinks.

    But that makes me a bad, bad person in some circles.

    TOUGH.


    Mr. Moore should brush up on his Gospels and learn about the seven deadly sins then:

    The Seven Deadly Sins

    I think Moore covers them all

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  112. CtheP said...
    OLT -- well, if it is really bad, I'll put it down and not bother with it. Damn shame, if it comes to that, as it looks like a story I'd want to read, however depressing it is.

    Now I have done wrong.

    I think it's an important story.

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  113. If it was only that easy :-(
    "Uhuru, send this message to the Taliban: GIVE UP OR GET VAPORIZED. YOU HAVE 10 MINUTES"

    "Scotty, load all torpedo bays and charge phasers to maximum. Prepare to fire in 10 minutes"


    It's never that easy. At some point, I'd also be required to sleep with one, maybe more, sexy Afghan women.

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  114. Kenneth, The russians tried the scorched earth policy in Afganastan and it didn't work because it rallied the resistance. I tend to think our policy of minimizing collateral damage is the right way to go, problem is it takes a lot longer and risks loosing the support of the American people as a result.

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  115. Mr. Moore should brush up on his Gospels and learn about the seven deadly sins then:

    Not to mention some of the Commandments, et al.

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  116. JamesTKirk said...

    It's never that easy. At some point, I'd also be required to sleep with one, maybe more, sexy Afghan women.


    Just send in the new guy in the red shirt to cover you and you should be fine

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  117. me too, got to get some work done. be back at break ...

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  118. The russians tried the scorched earth policy in Afganastan and it didn't work because it rallied the resistance.

    It also rallied the US to provide the resistance with Stinger missiles and other means of fighting back against the Soviet helicopters which had previously been blasting them with impunity.

    Fortunately, Afghanistan has no neighbors with a history of supplying insurgents who are fighting against our forces. /

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  119. OLT - nah, you didn't do wrong. I would have put it down either way if the writing and editing were so bad.

    I'll definitely give it a shot, though...

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  120. Just send in the new guy in the red shirt to cover you and you should be fine

    I tried giving Mikey Moore a red shirt; but by the time he went out in it, it was covered with so much mustard and gravy and sweat stains that it really couldn't be considered "red" anymore. So the Gorn didn't know that he was supposed to be the target.

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  121. Desert Dog said:

    The Seven Deadly Sins

    I think Moore covers them all


    With a special emphasis on gluttony...

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  122. Off to exploit the workers....see you all later

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  123. Does it count as exploitation when your subordinates show up at your quarters in miniskirts and go-go boots and beg to be exploited?

    (he asks hypothetically)

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  124. JamesTKirk said...

    It's never that easy. At some point, I'd also be required to sleep with one, maybe more, sexy Afghan women.


    Oh, the Taliban maids
    Are prim and staid
    And chances at 'em are few
    But if you hit the mark
    You may score in the dark
    Be you Gentile, Hindu, or Jew

    Oh, her charms are hidden
    Like pearls in a midden
    Under a sack of cloth
    But underneath
    May be Heaven you seek
    But first it has to come off

    She might be curvish
    A Whirling Dervish
    With the fire that burns in her loins
    Or she may be hag
    So take a spare bag
    Just in case you need to be goin'

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  125. Drive by: Congrats to the 2 Americans and 1 Israeli who got the Nobel Prize today.


    Any word on the peace prize? Abbas? Dinnerjacket? Carter? (sarc.)

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  126. Not gonna comment on the man boobs, so here's Photos from Afghanistan

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  127. Turn,

    You are exactly correct. The key to a successful counterinsurgency strategy is to protect the population, form both the insurgents and from your own violence. Then you kill the really bad guys and co-opt the half-hearted bad guys.

    The subtlety of what McChrystal said is lost on people misquoting him. I'm still trying to find the text of his speech, if anybody has a link, please post it... I imagine I already did a few days ago... I'll check my old posts (from Monday)in a few minutes.

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  128. Airline asks passengers to use the toilet before boarding... so they will weigh less and help cut carbon emissions

    A Japanese airline has started asking passengers to go to the toilet before boarding in a bid to reduce carbon emissions.

    All Nippon Airways (ANA) claims that empty bladders mean lighter passengers, a lighter aircraft and thus lower fuel use.

    Airline staff will be present at boarding gates in terminals to ask passengers waiting to fly to relieve themselves before boarding, The Independent reported.


    /will they have a bowl of warm water at the gate?

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  129. OLT: *applause*

    "Why do you think they call that kind of song a 'lay'?"

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  130. Airline asks passengers to use the toilet before boarding... so they will weigh less and help cut carbon emissions

    But what if that causes increased methane emissions?

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  131. Kenneth said; "The subtlety of what McChrystal said is lost on people misquoting him. I'm still trying to find the text of his speech, if anybody has a link, please post it.."

    Now how would I have read the entire quote? I got this from the Newsweek at the Dr.s office.

    /

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  132. You are exactly correct. The key to a successful counterinsurgency strategy is to protect the population, form both the insurgents and from your own violence. Then you kill the really bad guys and co-opt the half-hearted bad guys.

    The strategy is to win their hearts and minds.

    For the really bad guys: Put the hearts in this pile, and the minds in that pile.

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  133. JamesTKirk said...
    OLT: *applause*

    "Why do you think they call that kind of song a 'lay'?"


    EXACTLY!

    That was an instant original, too, I'll have you know.

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  134. Morning!

    Is the coffee fresh, or do I need to brew up a fresh pot?

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  135. Wait, there's also fresh pot here?

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  136. Oh Kenneth do you by chance have Josephines e-mail? Apparently she was looking for a bunch of us this morning.

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  137. Good morning all.




    Some Idaho school kids enjoy an early snow day


    Loveland ski opens Wednesday, A-Basin on Friday

    Boasting its earliest opening day in 40 years, Loveland officials today announced the area will open for skiing Wednesday. Less than an hour later the folks at Arapahoe Basin congratulated their rivals on the other side of the pass and said their area would open Friday.

    Damn Glodal Warming!

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  138. Wait, there's also fresh pot here?

    Sarry, that's the trouble with tribbles - the stash got ate.

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  139. Great. Tribbles with the munchies. Now there's a nightmare...

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  140. 3761 BC – The epoch (origin) of the modern Hebrew calendar.

    Clever joos! They have the world beginning, and then we promptly get to celebrate Halloween!

    /

    Good morning.

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  141. Good pics, {TOFU}
    Man, you've gotta be really tired to sleep on rocks like those Marines were doing in one of the pics.

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  142. Do muslim women wear their Halloween costumes above or below their burqas?

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  143. Oh Kenneth do you by chance have Josephines e-mail? Apparently she was looking for a bunch of us this morning

    8675309

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  144. turn: that's Jenny. Not the person I am looking for. ;)

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  145. Final thoughts on my disappointment with my Tigers. During the Great Depression, baseball and movies were how people got their minds off their troubles for a few hours. We in MI are now experiencing a horrible economy and these guys are extremely well-paid and supported rabidly by their fans. We also have a beloved 35-year announcer who is dying of cancer and should have provided that extra emotional kick toward the playoffs.

    Instead, we had some drunkenness this weekend by key players and then some horrible play in these last few games as they pissed away a large lead in their division. They should have been living like monks those last weeks of the season as they stayed focused and kicked their own asses over mistakes. It's just a game, but it was very disappointing regardless.

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  146. Mornin' redstate. One of the photos looks like a soldier teaching a boy to play rock, paper, scissors.

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  147. Worst. Pirates. EVAH.

    Pirates hit navy ship 'in error'

    A group of Somali pirates has been captured after attacking a French navy ship by mistake, apparently thinking it was a harmless cargo vessel.

    Okay, it was a *French* naval vessel, but still...

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8294858.stm

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  148. Good morning y'all - from a pleasant (63 degrees going up to 82 degrees) brightening and getting sunny Charlotte.
    I hope everyone is doing well this morning.

    Mom and I are doing ok, but have been doing chores and will continue to be doing chores most of the damn day!

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  149. Did they promptly surrender?

    Or were they retrograde Frenchies, and immediately go all Napoleon on their sorry asses?

    /

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  150. Self-advertisement to those that have just arrived:

    A poem ... look upthread a bit.

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  151. Hey {real}. Glad you and {mom} are doing ok.

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  152. That's a great poem, olt. Is that modified from one I should know, or made up out of whole cloth?

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  153. Napoleon was Sicilian, not French.

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  154. Howdy realwest--

    and getting sunny Charlotte

    Do "sunny Charlotte's" parents know about your intentions with their daughter?

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  155. For Halloween this year, I am handing out fair-trade carob "treats" and compact fluorescent literature printed on recyled post-consumer waste. Toilet paper, IIRC.

    /we need the eggs

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  156. Hi {red} thanks, how are y'all doing?

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  157. Still haven't heard about the job I interviewed for, but they asked for my references yesterday so I think that's positive.

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  158. Anybody know where to get a weather forcast for Charolotte?

    /morning real

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  159. OR
    Although the international naval forces have stepped up patrols in the Gulf of Aden this year, relatively few of the pirates detained have faced trial because of the legal complexities involved.
    So what's the point of capturing them then?

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  160. JamesTKirk said...
    Napoleon was Sicilian, not French.

    I missed the part in history where the Sicilians conquered most of Europe ... and I thought he was Corsican!

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  161. Wow, everything is on the internet somewhere. I haven't heard this in decades...

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  162. Napoleon was Sicilian, not French.

    And Laetitia Casta is Corsican:

    http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/swimsuit/image/1998/98_lcasta_01.jpg

    Why do I mention this, complete with photo link?

    Just... because.

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  163. Ufo Tofu: Why bother capturing them? I hear the sharks are hungry these days...

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  164. Good for you Spenser, the turnwife is going on two interviews today. Keeping my fingers crossed ...

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  165. Spenser (with an S) said...
    That's a great poem, olt. Is that modified from one I should know, or made up out of whole cloth?

    Original , although not anywhere near an original format. There's a great example in "Dune".

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  166. Why do I mention this, complete with photo link?

    Just... because.

    Because you love us!

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  167. "and I thought he was Corsican!"

    He was. Kirk has been hitting the Romulan Ale again.

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  168. you bastard, sharks are endangered and you don't know where those pirates have been

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  169. Good morning C-squared...

    How's it going folksies?

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  171. Obama 'rules out' Afghan cutbacks

    US President Barack Obama has said his review of Afghan strategy will not look at pulling out or cutting troop levels.

    Mr Obama told key members of Congress that he would decide on a course of action with a sense of urgency - but that not everyone would be pleased.

    But a source said he did not pledge to increase troop numbers as his top general in Afghanistan wants.


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8293558.stm

    Link contains a map of current troop deployments around the country. Gosh, shouldn't we maybe be trying to keep that stuff... I dunno... like, secret or something?

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  172. Original , although not anywhere near an original format. There's a great example in "Dune".

    There's also an example in the National Lampoon parody novel "Doon". That's where I got this quote from:

    "Why do you think they call that kind of song a 'lay'?"

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  173. Kirk, I have never seen that one (Doon).

    Worth buying? I love "Bored of the Rings".

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  174. I think Doon is better than Bored of the Rings (I have both).

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  175. Sorry, nothing personal, needed to nuke that one, house rules.

    /what happens elsewhere stays elsewhere

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  176. Hey y'all - sorry but real life intervened (How dare it!?!) and now I gotta go get some chores done!
    Damn.
    Anyway, I do hope y'all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road later on!

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