Highlights of this day in history: Christopher Columbus's expedition makes landfall in the Caribbean (October 21st by the Gregorian calendar); Terrorists attack the USS Cole; Nikita Khrushchev pounds his shoe on a desk at United Nations General Assembly meeting; Terrorists attack Bali; Luciano Pavarotti born; John Denver dies.
Other notable October 12th events include:
1582 – Because of the implementation of the Gregorian calendar this day does not exist in this year in Italy, Poland, Portugal and Spain.
1810 – First Oktoberfest: The Bavarian royalty invites the citizens of Munich to join the celebration of the marriage of Crown Prince Ludwig of Bavaria to Princess Therese von Sachsen-Hildburghausen. (Yeah, I really should have saved this for the Liberty Pub thread.)
1823 – Charles Macintosh, of Scotland, sells the first raincoat.
1892 – The Pledge of Allegiance is first recited by students in many US public schools, as part of a celebration marking the 400th anniversary of Columbus's voyage.
1901 – President Theodore Roosevelt officially renames the "Executive Mansion" to the White House.
1928 – An iron lung respirator is used for the first time at Children's Hospital, Boston.
1999 – The Day of Six Billion: The proclaimed 6 billionth living human in the world is born.
Thank LoL. I would have been awfully lonely down thread.
ReplyDeleteWoo Hoo! I was first!
ReplyDeleteAnd second?
Third?
ReplyDeleteHello? Anyone home?
ReplyDeleteBut not third. :)
ReplyDeleteKhrushchev's granddaughter Nina Khrushcheva writes that after years of embarrassed silence her family explained how exactly that happened. Khrushchev was wearing new and tight shoes so that he took them off while sitting. When he started pounding the table with his fist during his angry response his watch fell off. When he was picking it up his shoes caught his eye...
ReplyDeleteHILARIOUS! So it was a shoe of opportunity?
Crap, slow on the uptake this morning.
ReplyDeleteIt's very nice to know that you boys can count. ;-)
ReplyDeletePhew! I thought I had slipped into a 'Twilight Zone' episode or something.
ReplyDeleteHello boldandbald, and hi again littleoldlady. Going to be a fun day at the J-O-B today. If I see one more person today it will probably be at shift change.
ReplyDeleteTenth!
ReplyDeleteCrap!
ReplyDeleteMorning Phil.
ReplyDeleteIt's very nice to know that you boys can count.
ReplyDeleteOr not. ;-)
The numbers are big but the math is fairly simple, the United States is in deep financial trouble, we're digging the hole deeper, and no one in Washington is even thinking about putting down the shovel.
ReplyDeleteTaking the National Debt Seriously
As of Sept. 30, 2009, the national debt was almost $12 trillion and interest on that debt was $383 billion for the year, according to the Treasury Department's Bureau of the Public Debt. The Congressional Budget Office on Oct. 7 estimated the 2009 budget deficit to be almost $1.4 trillion (about 10% of GDP). In August, the White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB) estimated total government revenues at about $2 trillion. The revenue estimate included $904 billion from individual income taxes. This means the cost of interest on the debt represented more than 40 cents of every dollar that came in from individual income taxes.
Except for a few years in the late 1990s, for decades Washington has spent more than it has taken in each year and borrowed the rest. Taxpayer dollars that could have paid off debt each year have instead been spent on interest to finance debt. Unfortunately, that's a vicious cycle that will likely only get worse.
The OMB projects deficits of about $9 trillion over the next 10 years. If that occurs, the national debt will be almost $21 trillion by 2019. However, the actual amount could be much higher. The OMB also optimistically projects $13.5 trillion of revenue increases over the next decade, while minimizing the inevitable rise in interest rates that will come with an expanding national debt.
During Jimmy Carter's years in the White House, Treasury yields reached 15%. The 2009 average interest rate on the debt was only 3.2%. With our mounting national debt and budget deficits, it is reasonable to assume that in the near future interest rates on new and refinanced debt could double or triple.
In stark but simple terms, unless Americans are made aware of this financial crisis and demand accountability, the very fabric of our society will be destroyed. Interest rates and interest costs will soar and government revenues will be devoured by interest on the national debt. Eventually, most of what we spend on Social Security, Medicare, education, national defense and much more may have to come from new borrowing, if such funding can be obtained. Left unchecked, this destructive deficit-debt cycle will leave the White House and Congress with either having to default on the national debt or instruct the Treasury to run the printing presses into a policy of hyperinflation.
/hey, I know, let's spend a couple trillion more on health care "reform", cripple the economy with cap and trade, and, oh, how about a second "stimulus"?
I thought that after a "stimulus" lasts longer then 4 hours you should see a doctor?
ReplyDelete/or vice versa....
Good Morning Killian. You're full of good news today. ;(
ReplyDeleteOh boy, October 12th and on this day in history there's an inch of snow on the ground, which almost never happens this early.
ReplyDelete/global warming my ass
PaladinPhil said...
ReplyDeleteI thought that after a "stimulus" lasts longer then 4 hours you should see a doctor?
I would be calling all my ex-girlfriends and bragging! :}
b&b: Heck yah, I don't see that as a bug, it's a feature.
ReplyDelete1823 – Charles Macintosh, of Scotland, sells the first raincoat.
ReplyDeletelol. Figures that would happen in Scotland.
Dollar Reaches Breaking Point as Banks Shift Reserves (Update2)
ReplyDeleteCentral banks flush with record reserves are increasingly snubbing dollars in favor of euros and yen, further pressuring the greenback after its biggest two- quarter rout in almost two decades.
Policy makers boosted foreign currency holdings by $413 billion last quarter, the most since at least 2003, to $7.3 trillion, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Nations reporting currency breakdowns put 63 percent of the new cash into euros and yen in April, May and June, the latest Barclays Capital data show. That’s the highest percentage in any quarter with more than an $80 billion increase.
World leaders are acting on threats to dump the dollar while the Obama administration shows a willingness to tolerate a weaker currency in an effort to boost exports and the economy as long as it doesn’t drive away the nation’s creditors. The diversification signals that the currency won’t rebound anytime soon after losing 10.3 percent on a trade-weighted basis the past six months, the biggest drop since 1991.
“Global central banks are getting more serious about diversification, whereas in the past they used to just talk about it,” said Steven Englander, a former Federal Reserve researcher who is now the chief U.S. currency strategist at Barclays in New York. “It looks like they are really backing away from the dollar.”
/Obama fiddles while the dollar burns
I could use one of those raincoats -- it's pouring here.
ReplyDeleteOh, and good morning.
ReplyDeletei88u (= Fat kitty says "hi")
It is not worthwhile to try to keep history from repeating itself, for man's character will always make the preventing of the repetitions impossible.
ReplyDelete- Mark Twain in Eruption
Sadly, very true. We have seen these times before and will see them again. Maybe here, maybe somewhere else after the U.S. is gone and the world is unrecognizable from what it is today, but history will repeat itself. We tend to think that our current world will last forever, but history is full of countries no longer in existence that thought the same. Will we see the end of the U.S. in our lifetime? Our children's lifetime? Are we strong enough to hold it together and revive it for a time? I hope so. 2010 and 2012 will go a long way to determining that.
Morning Lucius.
ReplyDeleteb&b: What was that line from a poem? "Look upon these mighty works and despair"?
ReplyDelete/I am thinking Shelley, and the poem was "Ozymandis" I think.
//brain really foggy this morning
Phil, which line. The quote at the top is Mark Twain. The rest is me.
ReplyDelete/At least I think it was. I still need my second coffee, so I could be wrong...
You got it right b&b, I was just adding to your comment overall. :)
ReplyDeleteMornin' B&B
ReplyDeleteFrankly, I think history repeats itself only in this --human beings are finite creaturs with a limited range of views, attitudes, and behaviors.
Part of our problem is that while we are aware of the limitations, we are unwilling to accept them. Fat Kitteh is dumb as a box of rocks, but I doubt seriously that this bothers him. We, on the other hand, constantly wish to grasp the ungraspable, know the unknowable, and control the uncontrolable. And when we fail in these endeavors we become angry, sullen, and fall into violence or despair or both.
The Greeks call this hybris; it is also the heart of the story of the Fall in Genesis. The ancients knew and understood this problem and saw it as the heart of what it meant to be human.
Not suprisingly, in the modern age, we resist acknowledging our limits and are angered that anyone might suggest they exist as anything but a conspiratorial attempt to oppress.
Morning Lucius. Yes hubris is a bitch. If you look at all that has risen and then fallen we seem to be on the way up to where ever we are going. Every time the human race gets knocked back, we don't get knocked back to the beginning.
ReplyDeleteHang on...are you saying that I won't be getting any TALLER!?
ReplyDelete:-(
Good morning, Lucius! :-)
/thanks for depressing me on a Monday...
littleoldlady said...
ReplyDelete/thanks for depressing me on a Monday...
Isn't that a little bit redundant?
Hey Phil.
ReplyDeleteThat is the upside of hybris -- the same drives that push us over the edge sometimes are also the ones that keep us going when things are tough. Likewise, the knowledge of good and evil, though we possess it incompletely and cannot comprehend what we know, does provide direction and purpose to our actions.
It's interesting that both the Greek understanding of Hybris and the Biblical idea of the Knowledge of Good and Evil ultimately produce, in the thinking person, a recognition of our dependence on God/the gods.
LoL -- why be depressed?
ReplyDeleteDon't worry; be happy!
I can see about three inches of standing water in my backyard, and it's only begun to rain.
I am listening to Pandora radio and they are playing "Hot Rod Lincoln" By commander Cody and His Lost Planet Airmen. Love it!
ReplyDeleteIsn't that a little bit redundant?
ReplyDeleteWell, you can get even more depressed, so no. :p
Many years ago, Steve Dahl of WLUP in Chicago had a contest to rename Monday. The winner was "Disgustingly Rancid Lima bean Day."
ReplyDeleteIt's interesting that both the Greek understanding of Hybris and the Biblical idea of the Knowledge of Good and Evil ultimately produce, in the thinking person, a recognition of our dependence on God/the gods.
ReplyDeleteHmmmm, I would take the opposite stance of the last phrase. Not saying there are no gods, just that the role they have in our lives is not as great as some would want it.
If there are gods, they do not listen, and justice belongs to the strong
John Ford from the "Final Reflection"
/hmmm, think I will go googling and see if I can find the full text to that Klingon saying
PP -- that's the traditional view of the ancients. Whether it is justified or not is a different matter.
ReplyDeleteTake the test!
ReplyDeleteWhat I get to look forward to on my day off
ReplyDeleteUgh.
Oh boy. My cousin is driving back to Atlanta in that! :-(
ReplyDeleteKillian - a huge part of this problem is the left doesn't seem to grasp the most basic fundamentals of economics. As sad as it seems, I do believe I would do a better job with this than the "experts" we have in charge.
ReplyDeletelittleoldlady said...
ReplyDeleteTake the test!
You show absolutely no signs of depression. Indeed, you seem like one of the happiest people around. This is most likely a result of a positive attitude, high self-esteem and well-developed coping skills and strategies. Wonderful! Keep your spirits up!
Does this mean I passed or failed the depression test?
My score: 18
ReplyDeleteYou show absolutely no signs of depression. Indeed, you seem like one of the happiest people around. This is most likely a result of a positive attitude, high self-esteem and well-developed coping skills and strategies. Wonderful! Keep your spirits up!
If I don't get enough sleep it's because of a bunch of little two legged and four legged creatures who have decided that I'm the primary resource.
As for enjoying things, I still enjoy things; I just don't ever seem to have an opportunity to do much that I enjoy.
Morning AW.
ReplyDeleteGood morning, bold and bald! And, of course, everyone else. Who is making breakfast?
ReplyDeleteAW -- the left's view of economics is based on a fundamental misconception.
ReplyDeleteA thing might be worth something other than what people are willing to pay for it.
Accept that premise and all sorts of erroneous conclusions will follow.
Morning AW.
ReplyDeletebbiaw, have to see if the building is still standing.
I am right there with you Lucius. My 3 year old daughter, who generally wakes up around 6:30 on weekdays, wakes up around 5:00 on weekends. If she doesn't wake us up, the dog does. As for time to do the things I used to enjoy...yeah, right. However, I find that there are always new things to enjoy, like my 3 year daughter and the dog.
ReplyDeleteLucius Septimius said...
ReplyDeleteAW -- the left's view of economics is based on a fundamental misconception.
A thing might be worth something other than what people are willing to pay for it.
Accept that premise and all sorts of erroneous conclusions will follow.
Lucius, I wrote this on the previous thread:
The problem with our economy right now is that people accept as fact that there are more important things than profit. However, from the standpoint of a business owner, there is nothing more important than profit. Not only does the business owner and his family rely on profit, so do all of his employees, his suppliers, his shippers, his retailers, his customers and on and on... If a business owner does not make a profit, he goes out of business, then all those other people are S.O.L. as well. Profit is King! Until we, as a nation, accept that as fact we will continue to struggle to rebound financially.
You both failed!
ReplyDeleteAll things considered, I SHOULD be more depressed than I tested.
I failed too! YAY!
Good morning friends.
ReplyDeleteHow was your weekend?
My SUCKED! Was supposed to be a great 4 day weekend, however, we got a phone call that ruined it. My husband and I had just moved the first cord of a 2 cord woodpile when my daughter called to say she totaled her car. We had to go and pick her up and after seeing the car, she must have had a guardian angel with her. She skidded on the wet road (driving too fast) and nearly went over the wall and off the overpass. Just bruises and scraps, blew both airbags. Didn't get back from the ER until almost 9 at night. Still cranky and exhausted this morning, so it is a good thing I took the day off.
Sorry for the rant. Just need to vent.
LoL, if you are happy that you failed a depression test, then I think you just failed again. :)
ReplyDelete'Morning, ArmyWife! :-)
ReplyDeleteDouble fail?!
ReplyDelete/welcome to Monday...er..."Disgustingly Rancid Lima Bean Day."
Morning VT. Thank God she was alright.
ReplyDeleteOh, VT! Thank goodness she is ok. We had a scare like that last year (maybe you remember, my daughter was on her way to the SATs when she totaled her car). The WORST phone call we can get as parents. The car, replaceable. That precious girl? Not so much. I know how you are feeling though, so many what ifs still racing through your head.
ReplyDeleteMorning, lol and all. VT, thank God your daughter is OK!
ReplyDeleteI failed, too, LOL. Said I was happy and chipper and stuff.
ReplyDeleteThe outcome of my daughter's crash was I lost my Volvo. Here's to yours coming out slightly better! ;)
ReplyDeleteThanks b andd B. That so true. It could have been a very different call.
ReplyDeleteNow I have to worry about what to do about her lousy driving skills and whether the insurance company will drop us. Just wait until you have a driving teen. So much fun. not
Morning S.
ReplyDeleteVT -- glad to hear she's alright.
ReplyDeleteWe have a few more years before we have to start worrying about those things.
Morning all! VT, sounds like the daughter dodged a bullet there. She got lucky, I hope this is a good lesson for here. Speaking about firewood, that's what turn did this weekend too. Fixed the splitter and got that fired up. Split about half a cord or so. I need more wood. It's is supposed to really rain hard in Sac tomorrow. Heh, first Octoberfest ... BEER TREAD!
ReplyDeleteVT, I decided before my daughter was even born that When she reaches 13 I am going to lock her in her room and not let her out until she is 30.
ReplyDelete/only kind of kidding.
THREAD turn, well it is early ....
ReplyDeleteArmy Wife, when I saw the car I started to cry. I can't believe she walked away. This is her third accident. She really is a lousy driver. Smart, hard working student, super nice, straight and narrow kid--but really lousy driver after two over-the-road driving course. Don't know what to do about that.
ReplyDeleteHeh, first Octoberfest ... BEER TREAD!
ReplyDeleteDon't tread on my beer!
Morning Turn.
ReplyDeleteOMG, Violet Tiger! :-( I'm glad she's okay, and not too badly hurt.
ReplyDeleteWow. That certainly DOES ruin a weekend!
killian, I'm reading your posts with an open mouth. That is scary to read and makes me angry and a little like I might pass lol's test in the bad way.
ReplyDeleteOn Fox this morning a new estimate from a group who said that insurance reform will cost families that have and pay for their own insurance up to 4K for a family of four. Makes sense. Since the fines for not having insurance are low and the insurance companies have to cover pre-existing conditions, the insurance compaines have to spread the cost to recover their loses.
ReplyDeleteSilly liberals don't seem to get that.
Morning B & B, AW, turn, lucius also...
ReplyDeleteI must be lucky, I have two boys with about 12 years driving between them and zero accidents.
ReplyDeleteI thought this was a home. It was a superstition. What is a home without a child?
ReplyDelete- Mark Twain in a letter to Dorothy Quick, 9 August 1907
Thanks, lol. Certainly made for a miserable weekend. But she is here walking around and that is a blessing.
ReplyDeleteMorning Mr. Clean ...
ReplyDeleteHi Spenser, how was your weekend?
ReplyDeleteThe liberals NEVER get increased costs get spread to consumers. No one sucks up the cost "for the greater good". Another fundamental part missing from their logic.
ReplyDeleteBut she is here walking around and that is a blessing.
ReplyDeleteIt certainly is! {Violet Tiger}! Your nerves must be SHOT. :-(
Even kids that are good drivers can have bad accidents. I worry about it all the time...
THIRD ACCIDENT? Something has to be done VT ... well you don't need me lecturing you.
ReplyDeleteVT, our state of MI is in such a mess and they keep the shovel in the ground. Now, they want to tax the 60% of docs who DO accept Medicaid, along with the hassles and problems involved to make up the shortfall in the program.
ReplyDelete'Morning, turn! :-)
ReplyDeleteWith regard to economics, we are in a cycle where the powers that be want to try big government as the pathway to nirvana.
ReplyDeleteWhat we have is a large part of the voting public have figured out that they can vote themselves benefits fromthe public treasury. They only problem you then have is identifying a group of your population that you will fleece and steal from in order to shift wealth to those with their hands out. Thus, the demonization of the right by the left and the MSM.
Ultimately, if this keeps going on, your big producers leave the system in various ways, leaving behing the those looking for benefits from the system.
We did a defensive driving course with my daughter. Luckily, it wasn't her fault and it's the only accident she has had. She did get a speeding ticket a few weeks ago, but she brought money with the ticket when she handed it to her father. She is a decent driver, luckily.
ReplyDeleteI wish you luck - maybe just super short trips around the neighborhood until she improves? My mother is a stinky driver to this day, she scares the daylights out of me!
Good turn, thanks. Our kids are all too young to get behind the wheel so our worries end when they're locked in their rooms at night. ;)
ReplyDeleteI know turn. We know of a three day defensive driving course we may send her to during semester break. That is if we can still insure her her. She may have just found herself in the bad drivers pool.
ReplyDeletesigh
{LOL} Did you see the headlines up at Drudge? I've always been a global warming skeptic, it looks like we are actually going into a cooling cycle like I have been saying for years now.
ReplyDeleteHey Y'all - real fast drive by here as I gotta leave very shortly to take mom to her doc's and I just wanted to stop by and say "hello" to all
ReplyDeletey'all and wish you all a GREAT DAY and ask if anyone has seen any coverage that NORK tested FIVE missiles late yesterday early this morning?
Oh and if any of y'all see JCM please tell him I said HI and hope all is well with him and his family!!
Thanks y'all and I hope to get the chance to see you all down the road!
3wood, as always, you are right on. This is why corporations are the devil incarnate and profit is now a bad word. But why can't those being "fleeced" just take a look at countries that have tried this to see what happens? The elites (and by elite, I mean the John Kerry types) will continue to have, and the have nots end up with a lot more "not".
ReplyDeleteHi RW. Hope for all the best at the docs today. See? The Nobel Peace Prize is working already! sheesh.
ReplyDeleteUltimately, if this keeps going on, your big producers leave the system in various ways, leaving behing the those looking for benefits from the system.
ReplyDeleteMorning 3W. It's kind of a runaway thing, more people needing benefits and less producer paying taxes to provide them.
3 wood, I think we are living Atlas Shrugged. With 40% of the population paying no income taxes and more entitlements on the horizen, we may be reaching the tipping point.
ReplyDeleteI am reading Mark Levine's book and I am re-learning my history. Roosevelt and his New Deal and Johnson and his Great Society put us on this lousy road to nowhere.
wtf? No Charolette weather forecast. Are you for real, real? Morning amigo ...
ReplyDeleteI am reading Atlas Shrugged now.
ReplyDeleteTurn said: "it looks like we are actually going into a cooling cycle like I have been saying for years now."
ReplyDeleteIT'S SETTLED SCIENCE!! Pull your head out of your a**, you denier!
//
Real! Good morning! Wish you could stay. Hope 'mom' is OK. see you later.
ReplyDeleteI'm just a little old quote machine today...
ReplyDelete"When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic."
--Benjamin Franklin
Army Wife--it will be scary how life imitates fiction.
ReplyDeleteAW & VT, I am also reading Atlas Shrugged. Scary how perfectly it fits what is happening right now.
ReplyDeleteSpenser, you see that video of Gore up at Drudge? That guy is lousy at fielding questions ...
ReplyDeleteturn and Ufo Tofu! :-)
ReplyDeleteIf anybody cares...I'M FREEZING HERE! Been resisting turning on the heat in the house but it was that or gloves today. :-(
/I'm a lousy typer as it is...
Hey 3 wood (and ArmyWife and Turn and boldandbald and all y'all!) you can skip most of the e-mail I sent to you my friend!
ReplyDeleteNow I gotta split!
See you all down the road!!
The problem with the climate change loons is that they are looking at a very short time span in the history of the planet and saying 'this is unusual'. Talk to anybody in a field that looks a long time span (100's of thousands or millions) and you will find tht what we are seeing is not at all unusual.
ReplyDeleteLOL, keep those fingers warm and keep typing. Weather is really changing in Sac, supposed to really rain hard tomorrow. I've got to get home and prepare .... the lab probably won't get much of a walk tonight.
ReplyDeleteAlso today in history:
ReplyDelete1692 – The Salem Witch Trials are ended by a letter from Massachusetts Governor William Phips.
1773 – America's first insane asylum opens for 'Persons of Insane and Disordered Minds' in Virginia
1933 – The United States Army Disciplinary Barracks on Alcatraz Island, is acquired by the United States Department of Justice
1979 – The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, the first of five books in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy comedy science fiction series by Douglas Adams is published.
1984 – Brighton hotel bombing: The Provisional Irish Republican Army attempt to assassinate Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and her cabinet. Thatcher escapes but the bomb kills five people and wounds 31.
And I am back. Building still standing. A whole Schrodingers cat type of issue. Morning to all that have arrived while I have been away.
ReplyDelete3 wood: One quote I read awhile ago about Rome and it's fall goes along the lines; "Once the people discovered that they could vote themselves more bread and more circuses they did, and thus began the decline of the Roman empire..."
/probably a horrible paraphrasing of it too.
I was doing great talking up the pioneers with my kids and all they went through on the cold days, etc.. just trying to delay my furnace turn-on for the year. Oct. 11. Not too shabby for MI.
ReplyDeleteViolet Tiger
ReplyDeleteI liked this, from another blog:
So the earth may be cooling, but then it will warm, but maybe not. In any event, the time to act is now.
BTW, I'm at work today. You can tell, because I am unable to comment here at all from my computer at home (via Google or WordPress).
ReplyDeleteFunny how the same left-wing "solutions" to global warming are equally applicable to global cooling.
ReplyDeleteUfo Tofu, lol!
ReplyDeleteYes, let's act now.
Everybody talks about the weather, but nobody DOES anything about it.
JamesTKirk - very odd you can't comment from Google. Wordpress is touchy, I've discovered. But google?
ReplyDeleteHopefully you won't have issues when the new digs open. What would it be without some gratuitous "in bed" comments from you???
The left has labled it "climate change", that way they can capitalize on it whichever way it goes - up or down.
ReplyDeleteKirk, I actually can't get in here from work now. Websense says it is 'a social networking site'.
ReplyDeleteGood Morning and HAPPY MONDAY to you all!
ReplyDeleteHey, 3Wood (if you are still here)
Did you read the NYT this morning? Paul Krugman is saying the falling dollar is a good thing and a sign that people are confident in the US economy? I am not an economist, nor have I won a Nobel Prize, but I think Paul just may be wrong.
Is he right? Or, was in he in his garage while the car was warming up this morning?
Misguided Monetary Mentalities
The truth is that the falling dollar is good news. For one thing, it’s mainly the result of rising confidence: the dollar rose at the height of the financial crisis as panicked investors sought safe haven in America, and it’s falling again now that the fear is subsiding. And a lower dollar is good for U.S. exporters, helping us make the transition away from huge trade deficits to a more sustainable international position.
Also born today:
ReplyDelete1875 – Aleister Crowley, English occultist and author (d. 1947)
1968 – Hugh Jackman, Australian actor and singer
1970 – Kirk Cameron, American actor
Also died today:
1870 – Robert E. Lee, American Confederate general (b. 1807)
1971 – Dean Acheson, U.S. Secretary of State (b. 1893)
1978 – Nancy Spungen, girlfriend of Sex Pistol Sid Vicious (b. 1958)
1989 – Jay Ward, American animator (Rocky and Bullwinkle, etc.) (b. 1920)
1998 – Matthew Shepard, American murder victim (b. 1976)
1999 – Wilt Chamberlain, American basketball player (b. 1936)
darnit, people. IT IS CLIMATE CHANGE. COOLING, WARMING, whatever! It is CHANGE! And in this particular case (and only is this case) CHANGE IS BAD!
ReplyDeleteQuestioning scientists and Al Gore. What is WRONG with you???
If anyone is interested in a very good conservative talk radio show, I suggest Jim Vicevich, a local (CT) host.
ReplyDeleteDesert, you were Times' man of the year, though. That counts for something I'd say.
ReplyDeleteI'm putting off any html-learning since I'm hoping it won't be needed at the new place, right?
ReplyDeleteArmyWife: Hopefully you won't have issues when the new digs open. What would it be without some gratuitous "in bed" comments from you???
ReplyDeleteI don't think I've made any of those here yet.
VioletTiger: Kirk, I actually can't get in here from work now. Websense says it is 'a social networking site'.
I can get in here at work (WordPress was touchy, so I switched to Google), although some other sites (like 2.0) are blocked.
We can hope, Spenser. My Technosense has not increase one iota in the last month. Shocking, I know.
ReplyDeleteChange is bad!
ReplyDeleteOf course it is. And we tried to tell people this last November. We can now say 'told you so'.
Morning DD, ask kenneth that question when he shows up. He posted an excellent explanation of the consequences of a falling dollar the other day, I printed it out and took it home but didn't save it otherwise I would repost it.
ReplyDeleteI think I made one on your behalf, James. ;)
ReplyDeleteHugh Jackman...num num num!
ReplyDeleteArmyWife: And in this particular case (and only is this case) CHANGE IS BAD!
ReplyDeleteThey might consider another change to be bad depending upon what happens to Congressional control in 2010.
Spenser (with an S): I'm putting off any html-learning since I'm hoping it won't be needed at the new place, right?
I need to unlearn HTML right now since so little of it is allowed here.
"But why can't those being "fleeced" just take a look at countries that have tried this to see what happens? The elites (and by elite, I mean the John Kerry types) will continue to have, and the have nots end up with a lot more "not"."
ReplyDeleteThey do, but those being fleeced are not in power right now. The left has waited for a long time to get back into this situation and they are not going to let it go by without using the laws to try to punish the right for existing.
Make no mistake, this is a vendetta of hate by the left.
and yet the Right are labeled as vindictive and hateful. Makes you want to scream.
ReplyDeleteArmyWife: I think I made one on your behalf, James. ;)
ReplyDeleteWoohoo! Part of the time I've done those in the past was for fun, other times I did those to tweak certain people and/or to derail threads without actually posting opposition to the topic.
Make no mistake, this is a vendetta of hate by the left.
ReplyDeleteAnd turn can see it in Nancy's blinking eyes ..
JamesTKirk said...
ReplyDeleteFunny how the same left-wing "solutions" to global warming are equally applicable to global cooling.
They are also applicable to placing the US under the modern version of hydraulic despotism. Although I'm sure having a death's-grip control over the populace so that you can dictate where they live, what they eat, and how they live is the FURTHEST thing from any TRUE leftist's mind.
/meanwhile, I am studying Henry Ford's worker's dystopia
I'd say Paul Krugman is full of crap....a weak dollar in a "regular" economy may have the effects he is claiming. But, in this situation, the dollar is about to be scuttled for some "world currency", lose it's preeminence in international markets and probably lose considerable value. All of those things would spell disaster for the USA.
ReplyDeleteSo, why is Paul saying all this crap then? The Koolaid Watercooler at the NYT must be full of a very strong batch indeed.
JamesTKirk said...
ReplyDeleteto derail threads without actually posting opposition to the topic.
That is an interesting train of thought.
3 wood: Make no mistake, this is a vendetta of hate by the left.
ReplyDeleteIt's far more than that. There is a definite method to their madness. By getting the majority of the populace dependent upon the government, by rigging the system as much as possible (fraudulent census results, re-regulating political speech on the radio and adding it to the internet) they seek nothing less than permanent marginalization of the right and control by the left.
another power-grab
ReplyDeleteBut after drawing thousands of complaints and a civil rights investigation from the justice department, Arpaio was this week stripped of his federal authority to make immigration arrests. County attorney Andrew Thomas, one of Arpaio's supporters, condemned the "setback in the fight against illegal immigration".
The press coverage on this? *crickets*
Teh new green propaganda has been slowly seeded into popular culture. My suburban home, five minutes from my job, has been called a "McMansion" by coworkers younger than me. And they don't even realize the implication of accepting such terms.
ReplyDeleteThat is an interesting train of thought.
ReplyDeleteAnd some people just thought I had a one-track mind.
"Roosevelt and his New Deal and Johnson and his Great Society put us on this lousy road to nowhere."
ReplyDeleteThere is a great misperception that Roosevelt ended the Great Depression with his New Deal socialism. Actually the Great Depression ended due to WWII and Classic economic adjustments finally taking place.
We went from 25% unemployment to 1 million men in uniform within about a year and women working in war plants, all fighting in their own way to survive. Millions of casualties around the world changed the consumption patterns.
That changes the economic model a lot.
But he left fell in love with Keyensian economics and the perception that big government is the solution to economic ills.
Actually, big government is more of a hinderance than a help.
Arpaio won't last long, now that the Establishment has turned its baleful, red, unblinking eye on him.
ReplyDeleteIt will be too easy to make a bitter, clingy, WHITE RACIST out of Joe and his attempts to do his job.
JamesTKirk said...
ReplyDeleteAnd some people just thought I had a one-track mind.
If I didn't know better I would think you are conducting a takeover of this thread.
"Hey, 3Wood (if you are still here)
ReplyDeleteDid you read the NYT this morning? Paul Krugman is saying the falling dollar is a good thing and a sign that people are confident in the US economy? I am not an economist, nor have I won a Nobel Prize, but I think Paul just may be wrong.
Is he right? Or, was in he in his garage while the car was warming up this morning?"
Nobody but a far left loon takes anything Krugman says seriously.
The falling dollar makes out goods cheaper, yes, if we had anything worth selling to the rest of the world.
But no one wants to hold dollars now and the falling dollar also makes oil much more expensive.
It gets down to shy is the dollar falling? It's falling cause we are printing endless amounts of them to inflate our debt and nobody wants to hold our currency. We are becoming Zimbabwe.
If I didn't know better I would think you are conducting a takeover of this thread.
ReplyDeleteIt wouldn't be too hard for me to engineer, but I think some people would get steamed.
What is the definition of "McMansion"? Is it by square feet? Number of bathrooms? When do you cross the line from "house" to "horrible excess"?
ReplyDeleteThe other issue is the young don't understand the value in hard work to be in the POSITION to purchase a "McMansion".(oh, gosh, did I just turn into my dad?)
It will be too easy to make a bitter, clingy, WHITE RACIST out of Joe and his attempts to do his job.
ReplyDeleteActually I have heard that thrown around a few times by people on the left.
I can take you down, James. DOWN. I'll be smiling the whole time too.
ReplyDelete(I am so kidding)
Director Polanski feels depressed in jail: lawyer
ReplyDeleteSomeone please pass me the world's smallest violin.
JamesTKirk said...
ReplyDeleteIt wouldn't be too hard for me to engineer, but I think some people would get steamed.
I think I have been railroaded into a pun thread.
boo friggin hoo, Roman.
ReplyDeleteNo one mentions the victim wants to drop this BECAUSE she doesn't want to relive it, or put her children through a trial, NOT because she thinks what happened was a-ok.
ArmyWife: I can take you down, James. DOWN.
ReplyDeleteIn bed.
ArmyWife: I'll be smiling the whole time too.
They always do.
JamesTKirk said...
ReplyDeleteDirector Polanski feels depressed in jail: lawyer
Someone please pass me the world's smallest violin.
Make him take the depression test. (see upthread)
Don't worry, BAB. There is a light at the end of the tunnel.
ReplyDeleteI think I have been railroaded into a pun thread.
ReplyDeleteI lost my train of thought.
I wish I could get a bit 'o global warming here this week. It looks like it will be in the 50's. Brrrrrrr
ReplyDeletePaladinPhil said...
ReplyDeleteIt will be too easy to make a bitter, clingy, WHITE RACIST out of Joe and his attempts to do his job.
Actually I have heard that thrown around a few times by people on the left.
Oh, of course. Apparently, he once ended up in an impromptu, unstaged, unofficial photo with a neo-Nazi in a car, and didn't make up for it by publicly flogging himself after it was revealed that he had (gasp!) apparently "endorsed" neo-Nazism.
Of course, the end of such damaged and addled logic would make a lot of Code Pinkers into Tea Partiers, but that's BEYOND the reasoning capabilities of the self-righteous.
Let's not get off track here crossing topics like this, call it a tie and put a spike in it ok?
ReplyDeleteMake him take the depression test. (see upthread)
ReplyDeleteWell, it says that I'm fine.
Should we make the economy take the depression test?
JamesTKirk said...
ReplyDeleteDirector Polanski feels depressed in jail: lawyer
Someone please pass me the world's smallest violin.
Nah, get him some dope, wine, a hot tub, and a cellmate who calls himself "Nancy". It always used to perk him up.
turn said...
ReplyDeleteLet's not get off track here crossing topics like this, call it a tie and put a spike in it ok?
You're right. Let's put a bullet in it.
Not that I wish harm or death to anyone, but Roman Polanski is 78. Jail is hard on a young, fit person. This could have very negative effects on his health and the outcry from the left will be deafening.
ReplyDeleteMark my words.
"boo friggin hoo, Roman.
ReplyDeleteNo one mentions the victim wants to drop this BECAUSE she doesn't want to relive it, or put her children through a trial, NOT because she thinks what happened was a-ok."
I've never mentioned this before on line, but as a child I was the victim of some severe physical abuse. I'll spare you the details but my body carries the physical scars to this day.
At some point, in order to recover and move forward with their lives, the victim of abuse has to forgive their abuser(s) and move on.
Does not mean you are OK that it happened, just that you have to get past that and end the ability of the abuse to negatively impact your life. You can't keep living in that moment.
I think that is exactly what Polanski's victim has done.
It's his own fault for not doing the time when he was younger. Not that the left will place any of the responsibility for whatever happens on Polanski's shoulders -- why expect them to start caring about what he's responsible for now when they never have before?
ReplyDeleteThanks for that insight 3W ....
ReplyDelete{3wood}
ReplyDelete/that was a man hug, of course.
got to get some work done, "see" you all later ...
ReplyDelete3 wood: I've never mentioned this before on line, but as a child I was the victim of some severe physical abuse. I'll spare you the details but my body carries the physical scars to this day.
ReplyDeleteI rarely mention it either, but I was also abused as a child (though not as severely as you). This may or may not color my opinions toward Polanski.
By the way, congrats to the Yankees, the Angels and the Dodgers for winning their playoff series.
ReplyDeleteThe TV exec's have got to be popping champagne that you have New York and two California teams advancing.
And the umpiring has been dreadful. I mean just flat out awful. The umpires should be embarassed out there for the calls they are making.
The strike zone moves from inning to inning and sometimes from pitch to pitch. Balls hit clearly in fair territory are called foul. Safe runners are ruled out and vice versa. It's a dang joke out there and they need to get their collective act together.
It's insultingly bad. I saw better umpires in college.
Big hugs, 3Wood. I don't talk about it either, but I was raped at 16. Though it never leaves, you get to a point where you don't want it to define you.
ReplyDeleteI hate to dump something like that and run, but my husband just said "let's go to the Pottery Barn and look at dining room tables". Do you know how often that happens? NEVER.
Love you all.
Ugg...
ReplyDeleteCheck out the Obama pic on Drudge. Caption - "Kiss the Dollar Goodbye'
That and my breakfast....
Group hug for 3 wood and ArmyWife.
ReplyDeleteArmyWife said...
ReplyDeletemy husband just said "let's go to the Pottery Barn and look at dining room tables".
Keep him away from heavy equipment! Have him lie down and relax in a dark room, and apply cold compresses!
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{{ }}}} for everyone.
ReplyDeleteI really don't know what to say, so I will join in the group hug and appreciation for all of you.
ReplyDeleteAW. I met my wife while working part time at Pottery Barn. She started working there as holiday help, and the rest is history. happy shopping.
ReplyDelete"I rarely mention it either, but I was also abused as a child (though not as severely as you). This may or may not color my opinions toward Polanski."
ReplyDeleteIt's a lot more common than some may think.
That's why I get real protective around children, I remember how absolutely alone in the world I felt way back when I was going through it, and I wondered why no one else could see what was happening to me and made it stop. But everyone else in my life looked away....
Which is why I volunteer to this day in a recovery program for victims.
As far as I'm concerned, Polanski can rot in jail for whatever remains of his miserable, worthless life.
Good morning {all}!
ReplyDeleteAnother record-breaking, 90-something degree day here in Florida. I am green with envy reading about all of your cool temps, fall leaves and snow.
{VT} - Thank goodness your daughter is okay!
From article up at Drudge:
ReplyDeleteObama fails to win Nobel prize in economics:
LONDON (MarketWatch) -- In a decision as shocking as Friday's surprise peace prize win, President Obama failed to win the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences Monday.
While few observers think Obama has done anything for world peace in the nearly nine months he's been in office, the same clearly can't be said for economics.
The president has worked tirelessly since even before his inauguration to wrest control of the U.S. economy from failed free markets, and the evil CEOs who profit from them, and to turn it over to wise, fair and benevolent bureaucrats.
Amen 3wood.
ReplyDeleteGood morning folks...
ReplyDeleteUp here in Canada it's the morning after Thanksgiving dinner, which means dishes to clean, take the leaves out of the long dinning room table, and lots of coffee. Strong black coffee.
FB, don't be jealous ... locally, we dipped into the high '60's (with lots of rain), but are supposed to go back into the eighties and steam all week long.
ReplyDelete"but my husband just said "let's go to the Pottery Barn and look at dining room tables". Do you know how often that happens? NEVER."
ReplyDeleteWhat did you put in his coffee this morning.
A guy wanting to go to the Pottery Barn? My gosh, he has to be under the influence of something.
3 Wood- I agree, may he rot in the deepest pit of hell.
ReplyDeleteand Thanks Fluffy Bunny.
Kenneth,
ReplyDeleteHappy Post-Thanksgiving. Is there any pie to go with the coffee?
Morning Bunny.
ReplyDelete3W - I just hope he recovers.
ReplyDelete/
Sure there's pie... apple or pumpkin?
ReplyDeleteArmyWife said...
ReplyDeletemy husband just said "let's go to the Pottery Barn and look at dining room tables".
/remember the rule, you break it, you own it
3 wood: It's a lot more common than some may think.
ReplyDeleteYep. My wife, too.
Anyone who ever touches our son will end up in a shallow unmarked grave in the woods.
OLT - our low was 81 last night ...I am afraid to buy a pumpkin, it will be mush in a week.
ReplyDeleteBut, if I wait too long the only ones left will be the lopsided ones that will not stay upright!
Huge hugs for JTK, AW, and 3wood. I admire your ability to rise above what happened to you and become the people you are today.
ReplyDeleteMy suggestion for Mr. Polanski - a sweat lodge at a spiritual retreat in Arizona.
Kenneth, how did daughter's new boyfriend do? Wasn't that this weekend?
ReplyDeleteFluffy Bunny, article on Drudge says there is a pumpkin shortage. Cool and rainy where they grow them. I made pumpkin bread last week but I did have a hard time finding a can. Had to buy a store brand as it was the only thing on the shelf.
ReplyDeleteFluffy Bunny: Don't be jealous, up here in Toronto Canada it was 2 degrees Celsius this morning.
ReplyDeleteOLT: Don't mention pie this morning....:p
By the way for anyone who suffered from abuse out there and has lived with it quietly understand this:
ReplyDelete1. It was not your fault. You did nothing to deserve that.
2. Get some help/counseling of your choice. Talk to somebody trained on how to help you move forward. No matter how strong you think you may be and can go it alone, you can't and that is not a sign of weakness.
3. Know that you are not alone and there are people out there who love you and will help you.
Just a sliver of both, please.
ReplyDeleteNo, a little bigger ... bigger ... ah.
Nevermind the coffee!
/takes pie and runs
VT- that would explain the rather thin "Pumpkin Patches" around here, we thought maybe it was weather related.
ReplyDeleteBTW - if your daughter falls into a high-risk category, try Liberty Mutual. Our son had a lead-foot and nearly broke us paying for his car insurance. This was a few years ago, but we saved a considerable amount of money going with them.
PP said "Don't be jealous, up here in Toronto Canada it was 2 degrees Celsius this morning."
ReplyDeleteWhat's that in 'Merican? About 33?