Wednesday, September 30, 2009

Today in History: September 30th





Highlights of this day in history: Nuremberg tribunal convicts top Nazi leaders of war crimes; Berlin Airlift ends; James Meredith registers at Ole Miss; Mozart's 'Magic Flute' premieres; Actor James Dean killed in a car crash.

Other notable September 30th events include:

1399 – Henry IV is proclaimed King of England.

1882 – The world's first commercial hydroelectric power plant (later known as Appleton Edison Light Company) begins operation on the Fox River in Appleton, Wisconsin, United States.

1888 – Jack the Ripper kills his third and fourth victims, Elizabeth Stride and Catherine Eddowes.

1927 – Babe Ruth becomes the first baseball player to hit 60 home runs in a season.

1935 – The Hoover Dam, astride the border between the U.S. states of Arizona and Nevada, is dedicated.

1962 – Mexican-American labor leader César Chávez founds the United Farm Workers.

1968 – The Boeing 747 is rolled out and shown to the public for the first time at the Boeing Everett Factory.

1982 – Cyanide-laced Tylenol kills six people in the Chicago area. Seven are killed in all. The incident is known as the Tylenol murders.

2005 – The controversial drawings of Muhammad are printed in the Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten.

120 comments:

  1. Ahhhh, history stuff to learn and pass off in trivia contests. Thanks Pi Guy. :)

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  2. Morning Phil.
    Everyone must have hangovers.
    Has this thread really been up since 8 ?

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  3. If someone had bothered to wake me up I may have been up here with youse guys. :-/

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  4. Damn, it's been 4 years since the Danish cartoons....
    Where
    Did
    It
    Go.

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  5. Well, I know one of those Danish cartoons went onto a t-shirt that I own.

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  6. Good Morning everyone. The day that James Dean died. My history lesson for the day. Thanks Pi Guy.

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  7. Morning,LoL !

    How are you this fine day ?

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  8. robomonkey, my husband has the "Mohammed-bomb" tshirt. He used to wear it while infiltrating leftist protests in town.

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  9. Morning Squatch, yeah. Pi Guy is trying out the new time change. It was going up right in the middle of the pub crawl and distracting people. and then a couple of hours later fruitcup was served and then nothing for 6 hours after that. I think this will work much better.

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  10. 'Morning, Erik! :-)

    robomonkey! :-)

    Wendy! :-)

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  11. More history today:

    1938 - Britain, France, Germany and Italy sign the Munich Agreement, allowing Germany to occupy the Sudetenland region of Czechoslovakia. Also, on the very same day, the League of Nations unanimously outlaws "intentional bombings of civilian populations".

    Yeah, how well did those work our for you?

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  12. Morning, Little Old Lady! By G-d, have I missed the morning fruit cup!

    Wendy, that's the shirt I have. My wife really disapproves of me wearing it in public, just because she worries about me getting home in one piece if I do. I still wear it underneath something else from time to time, when I'm going to be around moonbats.

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  13. Morning threads tend to be best for me, which was why I was dismayed to find out earlier that this site locked comments overnight, until the mods got up (which, since I'm EST, is pretty late here).

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  14. Morning Erik, robomonkey, wendy. Keep getting distracted here. Should be forming thoughts and putting them into pixels. Nothing yet, so here I sit, working, surfing, drinking coffee.

    /maybe by the time I am done my mug I will think of something

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  15. robomonkey said...

    Morning threads tend to be best for me, which was why I was dismayed to find out earlier that this site locked comments overnight, until the mods got up (which, since I'm EST, is pretty late here).


    That will not happen once C2 moves into its new diggs. :)))

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  16. We only locked comments on the nights (actually, early mornings) that I knew I wasn't going to be here. The Jewish holidays, mostly, so far.

    I'm up early, EST. (HA. Understatement of the year. ;-)

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  17. That's true, Erik. :-)

    /soon, soon...

    Are you running out to buy a business again today? ;-)

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  18. Sleepy, squatch. How's by you?

    No complaints at all.
    Coffee is hot and strong this morning.

    I think this will work much better.

    Yeah, that makes sense. Cool.

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  19. Not sure if this is coffee or a cigarette. Or coffee smoking a cigarette...

    /...never saw coffee do THAT ;-)

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  20. Not sure if this is coffee or a cigarette. Or coffee smoking a cigarette...

    Vitamins N and C in one cup

    Brilliant !

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  21. Good morning folks.

    Hey Phil,

    Did you notice the irony in the headlines in the Canadian press for the last two days? Two weeks ago the CBC, the TorStar & the Globe were all talking about how their latest champion, the wise and wonderful Iggy, was going to bring down the Conservative gov't and smite the evil Harper. Well, as it turns out, not so much.

    This week it seems Harper is gaining in the polls, the Liberals are in free-fall, Iggy's Quebec wing is stomping off, and the wise & wonderful Iggy is looking like a pompous self-centered fool. Ah, what a difference a week makes!

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  22. Hey there Kenneth, no I missed that. It doesn't surprise me though. I think that we as a country are sick and tired of the Liberal party trying to force yet another election or change in government. It's only been a little over a year since our last election. Besides the Conservatives are doing a good job.

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  23. So you're saying that Iggy popped?

    I'm still kind of gleeful about the German election results, although I would have appreciated a higher turnout for their Pirate Party.

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  24. Vitamins N and C in one cup

    Kinda cuts out the middleman/woman, don't it? ;-)

    Check your email, squatch.

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  25. Saudi Arabia denies it offered Israeli jets flight path to Iran

    The Sunday Express reported this week that the Saudis had agreed to turn a blind eye and not interfere should Israel and the United States attack Iranian nuclear facilities via Saudi air space.

    Yeah, because they would be absolutely crushed if Irans' nuke shops were demolished.

    /need I ?

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  26. Good Morning all...what is the hot topic today?

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  27. 'Morning, Desert Dog! :-)

    So far...COFFEE!

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  28. Phil,

    On Sunday, Denis Coderre resigned as the Liberal's Quebec "lieutenant" blaming Iggy for poor leadership.

    http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/posted/archive/2009/09/28/liberal-mp-denis-coderre-resigns-as-quebec-lieutenant.aspx

    Yesterday, Iggy was in Quebec trying to mend fences, but he has all the charm of an undertaker. Harper would love to have an election now, as he's almost certain to get a majority.

    Of course, if Iggy is dumped as leader, the next most likely choice to lead the Liberals would be Bob Rae. Wouldn't that be special!

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  29. BTW for our American friends. This constitutes a typical editorial from The Toronto (red) Star.

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  30. Good morning LittleOldLady! Thanks for the wonderful fruit cup. Got any more coffee?

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  31. Kenneth: I would LOVE Bob Rae to be the next Liberal leader in an election. All they would have to do is bring up his leadership of the NDP and his time in power as the Premier of Ontario. I can see some of the ads now. "Well in power he instituted 'Rae Days' for a majority of public workers.....".

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  32. First France saying Obama is living in a fanasty world, now Ruben Navarette calling him out as well? I see that in Obama's world, France has a better grasp of the world and a normally reliable lap dog columnist has no trouble seeing the forest through all the trees....

    The Ambivalent One


    But when it comes to foreign policy, Obama is uncomfortable with leading other nations, as U.S. presidents are expected to do. He thinks there is nothing special about America's role in the world. As he told the U.N. General Assembly, "no world order that elevates one nation or group of people over another will succeed." Solving the world's problems, Obama said, "cannot solely be America's endeavor...."

    This is the reality that French President Nicolas Sarkozy wants Obama to understand. Sarkozy seems flabbergasted that Obama appears to be living in an alternate universe when it comes to foreign affairs. He notes that the U.S. president talks about how the nations of the world "must never stop at all until we see the day when nuclear arms have been banished from the face of the earth." Yet, Sarkozy suggests, that day seems to be getting farther and farther away.

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  33. BTW for our American friends. This constitutes a typical editorial from The Toronto (red) Star.

    Those poor boys. They're the real victims, don't you know.

    //dripping

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  34. Phil, pretty typical... or how about this one?

    "Justice prevails in security cases"

    In which the editor argues that it's a good thing that several Al Qaeda suspects were released from security restrictions. We can't try them in Canada, we can't deport them because, horrors, they might be tortured back home in Egypt or Algeria, and now we can't even keep them under house arrest. The editors of the Toronto Star think this is a good thing.

    http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorials/article/702820

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  35. In which the editor argues that it's a good thing that several Al Qaeda suspects were released from security restrictions. We can't try them in Canada, we can't deport them because, horrors, they might be tortured back home in Egypt or Algeria, and now we can't even keep them under house arrest. The editors of the Toronto Star think this is a good thing.

    "Sure, they'll probably kill again as soon as they're released; but we, the noble correct-thinking kind-hearted liberals who released them against all logic, history, and common sense, certainly share none of the blame for that."

    Just ask Michael Dukakis.

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  36. Political correctness is a slow form of suicide. Treating these scumbags this way is unbelievable.

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  37. Richard Fernandez has a great essay up today at Belmont Club on the reasons for Obama's hesitance and apparent ambivalence over Afghanistan.

    http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/09/30/real_thing/#more-6162

    General McChrystal wants more troops, and he wants a green light to go after the Taliban headquarters in Quetta. The Pakistanis are nervous of both ideas. They would like a tamed and controlled Taliban, not a defeated one. Obama is talking about hunting down Al Qaeda, but he fails to mention the "Tollybahn" any more. Obama's foreign policy is based on the leftist instinct that US military victory is always a bad thing. He prefers the delusion of the negotiated settlement in which everybody joins hands and works out their problems.

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  38. It's not really suicide, as such, because it's not the idiot liberals pushing these policies who suffer from them. Liberals in mansions feel all sorts of faux-compassion for the people living in the permanent underclass, dealing daily with crime, drugs, poverty, hunger, and so forth... But they never (well, rarely) realize that they're the ones responsible for the situation.

    Sometimes they're honest, at least with themselves, about what the consequences of their actions will be... And that's when they go out of their way to make sure that they and they alone will be immunized against the horrors they're about to inflict on others. Congress refusing to allow themselves to be covered in whatever health care plan they pass is a good, recent example; but it's only one of countless cases where Congress has built personal immunity to themselves in the laws they pass.

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  39. robomonkey,

    It's worse than that. The leftist Canadian media are convinced these people are completely innocent of all charges. We are talking about people who admitted to traveling to Bosnia, Pakistan, Chechnya, & Sudan for "humanitarian charity work". Yet they refuse to name the charity or explain who paid for their airfare. These people were identified by senior Al Qaeda terrorists as having attended AQ training camps in Afghanistan, under interrogation at Gitmo, which of course, to the leftist mind, could only mean they were framed by Dick Cheney.

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  40. Don’t rush Afghan decision, Kerry cautions president

    Massachusetts Senator John F. Kerry is using his influence as chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to urge the president to take weeks, or even months, to conduct a sweeping review of the overall mission in Afghanistan and generate a national debate on the war before committing more troops.

    “I am arguing that the president has the time and we have the time,’’ Kerry said yesterday in an interview, adding that he himself is wrestling with the question of whether more troops are needed.


    /you know, because Lurch hasn't pissed off the Afghanistan veterans yet

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  41. Wow! Now here's a good-news human interest story guaranteed to put a smile on your face.

    "US Congress quietly approves fast tracking Super Bunker Buster Bomb"

    "Congress has quietly approved to fast track the deployment of the BGU-57A/B or Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP). The Pentagon plans to rush the deployment of 10 BGU-57A/B "bunker buster" bombs by June 2010. The MOP is so enormous that it can only be delivered by a B-52 or a B-2A. In fact, the B-2 bombers will need to be refitted in order to carry two MOPs.

    The MOP weighs in at a whopping 30,000 pounds, it's warhead weighs in at 5,300 pounds and it can penetrate 200 ft (61 m) of 5,000 psi (34 MPa) reinforced concrete, 26 ft (8 m) of 10,000 psi (69 MPa) reinforced concrete, or 130 ft (40 m) of moderately hard rock."

    http://reportonarrakis.blogspot.com/2009/09/us-congress-quietly-approves-fast.html

    Good news, so long as your name isn't Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, that is.

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  42. Kenneth said...

    Now, that made me smile.

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  43. "Guided by a precision GPS system, the MOP can penetrate an unprecedented 200 feet down before exploding with devastation into an underground bunker, such as those buried in Iran and North Korea currently used to shield rogue nuclear programs. Now Congress has quietly advanced $68 million into the 2009 budget to accelerate the purchase and deployment of ten such super bunker busters making clear they are for possible use against the regimes in Iran or North Korea. Pentagon planners are rushing to beat by months the latest June 2010 deadline for just four such bombs, and have been subsequently directed to increase the number of MOPs to at least ten."

    More bombs, and they want then sooner than June 2010... hmmm.... that's has got to concentrate the minds of the thugs in Tehran.

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  44. wow, the Hoover dam generates 2.8 mil HP. That's a lot of hamsters for sure. Morning C2's

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  45. Morning kenneth, didn't they make the first bunkerbusters out of old cannon barrels?

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  46. Sarkozy Sees Obama As Incredibly Naive & Grossly Egotistical

    http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/09/sarkozy-thinks-obama-is-incredibly.html

    Sarkozy is furious with President Obama over his Iran speech and his misguided global disarmament obsession. The French President is worried about the Western world with such a flawed president leading America.

    No shit.

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  47. “I am arguing that the president has the time and we have the time,’’ Kerry said yesterday in an interview

    Kerry needs time to be both for and against the troops.

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  48. turn said...
    Morning kenneth, didn't they make the first bunkerbusters out of old cannon barrels?


    Actually no they didn't, at least the ones used in WW2 weren't. The ones used in GW1 were

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  49. Mornin'

    Olympics for Chicago are in the bag.

    The Wee Won wouldn't go to Copenhagen unless they were in the bag. He can't afford a trip like that and come away empty handed.

    The question is.

    What's the quid pro quo?

    The president said in a Sept. 14 interview that he was too occupied by the health-care debate to make a final pitch for Chicago and that his wife was the best choice to represent the U.S.

    There’s no way The One would risk his political capital on a personal appeal in Denmark unless he’d been assured that Chicago will get the games if he makes a cameo. It’s a done deal; the only question is who approached whom.

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  50. Kenneth,

    Strange world, when the French have more moral clarity and backbone than the US.

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  51. "Its casing consists of an approximately 16-foot (5-meter) section of artillery barrel that is 14.5 inches (37 cm) in diameter. Artillery barrels are made of extremely strong hardened steel so that they can withstand the repeated blasts of artillery shells when they are fired. "

    Gulf War BB's Made from Artillery Barrels

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  52. robomonkey,

    J F'n K needs to release his DD-214 or STFU.

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  53. JCM said...

    Amazing, isn't it ?
    Game the games, and declare victory.

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  54. Roman Polanski, 1979: Press Understands My Plight Because (and I Do Quote) "Everyone Wants to F--- Young Girls!"

    It sickening to watch the liberal media and various Hollywoood celebrities come to the support of poor Mr. Polanski.

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/292979.php

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  55. J F'n K needs to release his DD-214 or STFU.

    Agreed? Hell yes. Holding my breath waiting? Nope.

    Strange world, when the French have more moral clarity and backbone than the US.

    Yes and no. The French are still waiting for us to bail them out, instead of doing anything themselves. Sarkozy is talking the talk, but he still has some more actual walking to do.

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  56. /If only the Catholic Church made a few good movies, the MSM wouldn't give a damn about their pedophiles either.

    *spit*

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  57. Kenneth,

    And every father of young girls wants five minutes with the perv.......

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  58. robomonkey,

    Re: the French, very true.....

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  59. JCM - not just the fathers of young girls.

    And don't we just love Woody Allen rushing to his defense?

    Michael Jackson would be up there, too, if he were still alive.

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  60. James Meredith registers at Ole Miss

    I am happy to announce that Mississippi has come a long way since then.

    Good Morning, {all y'all}!

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  61. Good morning, red state! Banana?

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  62. Speaking of pervs, Jackson, MS local news at 5:00 yesterday had a segment on the plight of homeless sex offenders not being able to stay in the usual homeless places because they would violate their living restrictions. And I'm supposed to feel sorry for these guys? ? ? I think not.

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  63. Good morning, red state! Banana?
    Why, thank you...don't mind if I do.

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  64. JCM, wow that article contains a surprising amount of detail. Thanks.

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  65. robomonkey,

    Woody Allen as a character witness....

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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  66. Police shoot at men in Jakarta airport attack -official

    JAKARTA, Sept 30 (Reuters) - Indonesian police opened fire on three cars after an altercation involving men with weapons at Jakarta's international airport on Wednesday, an airport official told Reuters. "The information I received was that there were three cars, suddenly the passengers got out and attacked the counter for (airline) Sriwijaya Air and then left," Tahoma Sirait, head of operations at Soekarno-Hatta international airport, told Reuters.

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  67. I'm sure we could find other living facilities for homeless sex offenders -- jail cells. If they've been violating their living restrictions and assaulting the other people in the shelters, why the hell are they still on the streets?!

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  68. JCM
    Olympics for Chicago are in the bag.
    I listen to WLS online and the people of Chicago are not behind this. They see it as business as usual and the taxpayers footing the bill.

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  69. So if the jailhouse bullies sodomize Polanski, will it be "rape rape" or will it just be a transgressive erotic encounter of an artistic nature?

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  70. but robomonkey...the poor sex offenders can't sleep in parks like other homeless peeps or near schools or bus stops.
    ///

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  71. I just walked past a comic book store the other day and was disgusted by the vast number of Obama covers on display in the windows. Apparently that's what's bringing in the customers, or so they hope.

    Woody Allen as a character witness.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Like Uri Geller the spoon-bending fraud as a character witness for Michael Jackson.

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  72. redstateredneck,

    That's only half of it... the One True Purpose for the 2012 Chicago Olympics will be to serve as a backdrop to Obama's Monumental Ego. That's what it's all about.

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  73. I remember the Tylenol murders. I was living in California at the time, working for a church in what was called the Personal Correspondence Department. People would write bible questions and a team of writers would respond to their inquiries. We also received some "interesting" comments.

    One fellow recorded a song he wrote and sent it in. It had no memorable melody, but the lyrics were, "Who put the poison in the Tylenol? Who put the poison in the Tylenol? Who put the poison in the Tylenol?"

    Morning CCers! Glad to join you this a.m.

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  74. So if the jailhouse bullies sodomize Polanski, will it be "rape rape" or will it just be a transgressive erotic encounter of an artistic nature?
    We'll have to call in the renowned sexpert, Dr. Whoopi Goldberg, for a ruling.

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  75. JCM - Olympics in the bag? Damn!

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  76. So if the jailhouse bullies sodomize Polanski, will it be "rape rape" or will it just be a transgressive erotic encounter of an artistic nature?

    During the act, Roman will be offering his cellmate pointers. "Cut! No, no, they a different angle, and more emotion on your face! Now, action!"

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  77. Hey, {Gak}

    Who put the poison in the tylenol,
    Number 1 put the poison in the tylenol.
    Who me?
    Yes you.
    Couldn't be.
    Then who?
    Number 2 put the poison in the tylenol.

    sorry, that song you posted reminded me of an old camp song that goes on and on and on....

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  78. gak,

    That's the buzz, and it makes sense.

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  79. Hi {red} LOL!!!! Thanks for the chuckle. : )

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  80. I think Obama is desperate to just have one f*cking achievement! ! !

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  81. Villages 'wiped out' by tsunami after Samoa quake: report

    A powerful earthquake with a magnitude of 8.0 struck off the South Pacific island nation of Samoa on Tuesday, wiping out villages and killing 19 people in the region, reports said.

    At least 14 people were reported to have died in American Samoa, and five in Samoa as enormous waves battered the island states, with one witness saying the wall of water had been up to 30 feet (nine metres) high.

    One local journalist told AFP entire villages had been wiped out in Samoa on the worst-hit south and southwest coasts in an area where thousands of people live.

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  82. I think Obama is desperate to just have one f*cking achievement!!!

    Are you saying he's not the father of his children?

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  83. Are you saying he's not the father of his children?
    As president! ! !

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  84. rsn,

    We're just a bunch of racists for thinking the Olympics are a deal done Chicago style.

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  85. Priorities,man.
    Reading those situation reports all day long is effin' depressing, you know ?
    We're gonna for it bigbig this time.
    You know that Axis of Evil thing ?
    Yeah, that's gone. We're settling all of this stuff on the curling rink.

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  86. Morning Pi Guy - This a great forum! And the time it is posted is particularly effective. Thanks for your hard work!

    What a smart site you all have created.

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  87. I like the time change, too. I was always too late for fruitcup. Only the nasty stuff was left.

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  88. The One will achieve quite a bit. None of it any good for America or the world.

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  89. Hi Kenneth. Good to see you. How long have you been here?

    I arrived Sunday.

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  90. I like the time change, too. I was always too late for fruitcup. Only the nasty stuff was left.

    I dunno, I thought a little fermentation improved the fruit cup... ;)

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  92. robomonkey said...

    I dunno, I thought a little fermentation improved the fruit cup... ;)

    robo - you don't have a "problem" do you?//

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  93. Hello midwestgak! Good to see you. I've been dropping in from the beginning... still waiting for the Grand Opening

    Will that last person to leave please turn off the lights at the old place...

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  94. Thank you Pi Guy! This is a great time for this forum.

    re: Nuremburg. I had a teacher, Hilde Pinkus, who taught me German for 3 years. She was a Jew from Munich. She had been studying pharmacology in the gymnasium and her husband was studying law when the Nuremburg law was enacted. Their families sold everything they could to get them the money to get out of the country. They made it to Britain and eventually to the US. They were the only ones of either of their families to survive. She told me "Everybody knew but they didn't want to know so they didn't".

    She kept asking me when was I going to have babies (we kept in toch after I graduated).

    She had 4. All boys.

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  96. New morning news/open thread upstairs, in case anyone is interested.

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  97. And, just as an aside for new people who may not know, or current people who may need a reminder:

    Our Policies and Rules.

    That is all.

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  98. Valerie Jarrett,
    - Assistant to the President for Intergovernmental Affairs and Public
    - White House Office of Public Engagement
    - Office of Intergovernmental Affairs, Office of Urban Affairs
    - White House Commission on Women and Girls - White House Office of Olympic, Paralympic, and Youth Sport.

    Heck of name plate on her door.

    Jerret is a Chi Town political hack.

    Valerie Jarrett's Thoughts on Barack Obama

    Valerie Jarret

    Valerie Jarrett's mother, Barbara Taylor Bowman, co-founded the Erickson Institute in Chicago and still serves on its Board of Trustees. Tom Ayers, the father of Bill Ayers, was a one-time fellow trustee of the Institute. According to WorldNet Daily’s Brad O’Leary, the Erickson board also included Bill Ayers’ wife, Bernadine Dohrn.

    And a red diaper doper baby.....

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  99. Kenneth, I promised I'd think about your points re: bombing Iranian nuke facilities. I did. They are all good points (especially the economic ones) but it seems to me they are all premised on successful strikes against the nuclear facilities.

    I don't know how that happens without B-52s dropping tons and tons. Every site we know about is underground, correct? And hardened?

    I don't think they are 'bombable'.

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  101. For this reason, we have asked - and are asking again - that any residual negative feelings you may have about other websites or their members be expressed elsewhere, and not on C2.

    Clarification for future reference, please:

    Did the above references constitute "negative" remarks, or does the policy actually mean that we should not make any references to certain previous sites at all?

    Honest question. I generally don't want to cross any lines, but I'm not always sure where the lines are.

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  102. We had a thread about Valarie Jarrett here a while back - interesting woman, to say the least.

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  103. robomonkey,

    Movin' on, new adventures ahead.

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  104. Did the above references constitute "negative" remarks, or does the policy actually mean that we should not make any references to certain previous sites at all?

    Honest question. I generally don't want to cross any lines, but I'm not always sure where the lines are.


    Fair enough. I would hope people will use their best judgement. My own thoughts are, let's leave it in the rearview mirror and move forward.

    The less mention the better - it keep people from gettin ginto a conversation about it, which as I'm sur eyou know, can only end badly :)

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  105. I will now be closing this thread.

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