Wednesday, September 23, 2009

Who says there's no good news?


C2 Friends of Israel Forum Manager Carl in Jersusalem has an interesting item on his blog, Israel Matzav, today.

Seems there's been a little, ummmm...accident in Iran. See what you think.
Posted by Corre∫pondence Committee at 1:16 PM
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61 comments:

  1. So it was retrofitted with Iranian-made equipment by Russian technicians just last year? Iranians can make the gear but they can't install it?

    Apparently they can't fly it either.

    Well, my prayers for the crew and their families. But in all honesty, it's one less obstacle for Israel to have to deal with if the time comes.

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  2. Oh, I forgot to say - HI YA CARL!!

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  3. You just can't make this stuff up ... the planes fell on the Ayatollah's grave?!

    /WHOA! Allah's will?

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  4. Yeah, lol - that was kinda my favorite part.

    Am I a bad person? : )

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  5. Hey folks, shopping done and I come home to news like that. Some weeks I love Wednesdays.

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  6. Heh.

    I have a vision of Herve Villechaize pointing at the sky.

    De Plane, De Plane !

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  7. The only thing better would have been if it had landed on Ahmadinejad's house (or palace, or wherever it is that he crafts his Holocaust-denying bullshit).

    I can just see his little feet sticking out from underneath it, with striped socks and red shoes.

    SOMEBODY STOP ME.

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  8. CC,

    You're doing JUST fine!

    /*I'm* the one who needs to be careful, what with Yom Kippur just around the corner
    //carry on...

    ;-)

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  9. Sorry CC, I can't. I just got this picture in my head of Ahmadinejad dancing around the Mausoleum with a rifle. Like something out of 2001.....


    /oh god, I am so going to hell...

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  10. /oh god, I am so going to hell...

    What Phil? You think you'll be lonely? Hang on a second and I'll shoot you my HellMail© addy.

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  11. enuff: I know I won't lack in company. Some of it will even be good company. :)

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  12. Yes it will. Yeppers. :)

    Did Ahmadi 'the still living terrorist' Nejad speak to day(as I go binging)?

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  13. Maybe, in the spirit of engagement, Obama will offer to send the NTSB over to investigate.

    *snort*

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  14. What did they use as an AWAC?
    A DC-10?

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  15. Atilla...please don't use those three words...'Obama will offer'...anytime. ;)

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  16. DEZ: According to the article

    The Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force operated a single Simorgh, a former Iraqi Air Force Adnan. The Adnan AWACS was in turn a modification of a Soviet-built Ilyushin Il-76 transport.

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  17. enuff - ok How 'bout

    "Obama will apologize for not being able to offer....."

    better?

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  19. DEZ said...
    What did they use as an AWAC?
    A DC-10?

    Hi DEZ, they used the Russian built Ilyushin 76 which was retrofitted by Saddams Iraq to be AWACS. It was transferred to Iran in 1991 during the first Gulf War.

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  20. I am still chuckling over the:
    ... the flaming planes landed on the mausoleum burial site of the Islamic revolution's founder Ruhollah Khomeini, a national shrine.


    *evil grin*

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  22. I guess my joke sucked. :(

    What joke ?

    ///

    DC-10. I hear ya.

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  23. Iran's sole AWAC gets the "Flying Fickle Finger Of Fate" Flying Fickle Finger Fate award.

    Congrats Dinnerjacket.

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  24. LMAO, screwed that up...HI y'all!

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  25. AtillaTheHoney said...

    So it was retrofitted with Iranian-made equipment by Russian technicians just last year? Iranians can make the gear but they can't install it?

    Yes, the Iranians can put together advanced highly technical radar equipment but can figure out how to bolt it to the inside of the plane.

    The Iranians have always been really crappy liars.

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  26. sasquatchonsteroids .
    I remember a cartoon a few decades back where the model DC-10's kept falling off the shelves. ;)

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  27. Who says sanction don't work? (After a fashion that is)

    Iran's Air Force has serious training, maintenance, and readiness issues. Part of it is the inability to resupply critical components in quantities to maintain readiness.

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  28. DEZ said...
    I guess my joke sucked. :(

    Sorry my senses suck today.
    Density in my brain. Guess I need some days off of work.

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  29. I remember a cartoon a few decades back where the model DC-10's kept falling off the shelves. ;)

    Heh.
    If we knew what actually held them together sometimes, there'd be a lot of us just choosing to walk.

    Green RTV, is one I've heard from a friend. Lots of it. Good for 'loose' tolerances.

    I drive anymore. Eff it. If it takes 2 weeks, that's time off from work.

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  30. Tis okay Callahan.
    Give me a bit and I will say something funny about the awac to shrine thingy.

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  31. Damn, now how will the Iranians efficiently vector their relic military aircraft into the path of incoming air-to-air missiles?

    /just shoot your pilots, save the jet fuel

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  32. And ANOTHER thing - how did they get their hands on a F-15?

    (Please don't tell me France sold it to them under the counter)

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  33. Hi, Cal.
    Hope you had a good day and didn't have to break out the ruler.

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  34. While back Iran unveiled a "new" indigenous fighter.

    If you're a aviation geek, the thing looks like an F-5 with the single vert stab replace with a pair of vert stabs. Not exactly a new aircraft, and it's doubtful it's even a copied new construction.

    We sold the Shah a bunch of F-5s.

    They also showed off an indigenous Anti-aircraft missile, which looks and acts suspiciously like the HAWK systems we sold the Shah.

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  35. Ahmad Miqani boasted its new radar systems were made in Iran and able to spot any airplane or missile at a distance of 1,000 kilometers from Iran's borders.

    So if it was so great, there is only one explanation for the crash.
    They were aiming for the fighter jet.
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  36. AtillaTheHoney said...
    And ANOTHER thing - how did they get their hands on a F-15?

    They were regularly bought by Iran in the US. But it was still in the Shah's time. Now do the math how old those planes are.

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  37. Atilla,

    F-5s, F-4s, F-14s all sold to the Shah, and of suspect and limited air worthiness and readiness.

    Complete equipment list.

    Except you can scratch one AEW and on F-4 from the list.

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  38. AtillaTheHoney said...

    And ANOTHER thing - how did they get their hands on a F-15?

    That's F-5.

    /they don't have anything close to an F-15

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  39. JCM.
    I take it they are just slapping some new paint and a loud muffler on old junk and saying we are so f*****g cool. ;)

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  40. Attila, Callahan,

    No -15s to Iran.

    US, Israel, Japan, and Saudia Arabia only F-15 equipped countries.

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  41. sasquatchonsteroids said...
    Hi, Cal.
    Hope you had a good day and didn't have to break out the ruler.

    Good day, but very nearly broke the ruler. Gosh let there be brains. ;-)

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  42. DEZ,

    ROFL! About the size of it.

    It's doubtful they have the industrial base even to copy a F-5. Let alone scratch build a fighter.

    Plus, they really are putting everything into the nuclear program starving what could be consider legitimate defense programs.

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  43. eatitorwearit,

    GMTA.

    Same link, 1 minute!

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  44. JCM,
    my bad, mistook the F-15 for the F-14.
    Which Iran really has. Regularly bought.

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  45. "First to die."

    "Remember Wake Island!"

    /Iranian air force mottos

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  46. Irans biggest threat (currently) is mining the Strait of Hormuz.

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  47. my bad, mistook the F-15 for the F-14.
    Which Iran really has. Regularly bought.

    Not to worry. Those babies are extreme high maintenance.

    Think of a guy working at Wal-Mart trying to keep Paris Hilton pretty.

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  48. I just had a horrible thought. If they had to ship in russian techs just to install a radar system in their AWACS, how the hell are they going to build a working a-bomb?

    /and how reliable will it be?
    //sudden vision of when Sideshow Bob set off his.

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  49. Callahan,

    No worries, I drive my wife nuts. I'm already teaching the boys to be aviation geeks. How to tell a 737-800 from a 737-900, or F/A-18E/F from a F/A-18C. Or a CH-46 from a UH-60 by the sound.

    When a warbird goes over the house, she's learned just get out of the way.

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  50. sasquatchonsteroids said...
    Irans biggest threat (currently) is mining the Strait of Hormuz.

    That would even generate a response from countries that are usually not very brave like: France and Germany.

    No seriously that would get them the ATTENTION of the whole energy dependent world.

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  51. DEZ

    So if it was so great, there is only one explanation for the crash.
    They were aiming for the fighter jet.

    You owe me a glass of chardonnay.

    Yes, sorry for the typo guys - F-5

    This crap is from the Shah's time? Jesus, all we have to do is get 'em airborne and they'll fall apart on their own.

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  52. sasquatchonsteroids said...

    Irans biggest threat (currently) is mining the Strait of Hormuz.

    /biggest threat to themselves, 5th Fleet aay, "go ahead, make my day"

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  53. No seriously that would get them the ATTENTION of the whole energy dependent world.

    It's been thrown out there by them if Israel attacks their nuclear facilities.
    You may be right, but it is a threat that needs to be taken seriously.

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  54. PP,

    It's one a resource issue. They've prioritize the bomb. Letting other things slide.

    The other thing is a uranium gun type weapon is techologically crude, you need U-235 which they have or are getting form the centrifuges and military grade hi-explosives.

    A plutonium implosion device requires a great deal more sophistication. But the Norks have been working on that.

    A plutonium implosion device is the only realistic choice to put on a missile.

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  55. I have seen very little of what Iran flashes that hasn't been bought or snatched from other counties.
    Telling me that they built this sophisticated radar system and needed help installing installing it is BS.
    Those primates couldn't set the clock on a VCR.

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  56. DEZ

    Those primates couldn't set the clock on a VCR.

    *ahem*

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  57. JCM,

    when young I used to live in an area where every piece of military hardware, once airborne had to pass by in order to get counted.
    Cold-war time. On one evening wave after wave of helicopters passed right above our house. I counted 46 in all. Big tranports and Bell UH-1's.
    What a concerto.

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  59. Atila.
    Sorry about the wine, and its okay if you can't set the clock on the VCR.
    You didn't claim that you built and then asked for help setting the clock.
    Better?

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  60. This is for the Iranian air force.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y55wvdcCJfk

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  61. DEZ

    You are not only a hoot - I love the music.

    Highway to Hell indeed. See ya upstairs.

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